*The other for the long coat and giant ears would be the Pappilon.. * On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 1:42 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > There actually is some indication that many moons ago, chis and poms were > cross bred to give us the current long coat chi, and also the current > short nose...as the original chis, way back in the day, lol, was more like > the "deer" chi today than the cobbly short nosed things we have come to > accept as modern standard......so there is some ancient validity to the > pom referance..... > Marsha > > > Darcy...the info you have about Poms is a little backwards...the > > Chihuahua was used by Pom breeders to get the smaller size back in the > > late 70's and 80's. Poms use to be a much bigger breed...around 10-12 > > lbs...now they are breeding 4-8. > >  > > Waggin' Tails in The Dog Park, > > Deanna > > > > >                                        >                      and > >  The Dog Park Pack: > > Nugget, Shuai-Li, Bella, Mouse, Myrtle, Mable, Toby, Caleb and Maxine!!! > > and honorary non-dog members of The Dog Park: > > Stella-Macaw, Stanley-Amazon, Miles the cat > > www.joys4toys.com > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: dasha <[email protected] <dasha48%40hughes.net>> > > To: [email protected] <Chihuahuas%40yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 7:49:50 AM > > Subject: RE: [Chihuahuas] Ricky Needs A New Home, He Is To Aggressive > > With Family :( > > > >  > > Chi's were not bred down from the Poms either, their is no history or > > proof of that at all > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: [email protected] <Chihuahuas%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto: > [email protected] <Chihuahuas%40yahoogroups.com>] On > > Behalf Of Darcy Jacobs > > Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 10:24 AM > > To: [email protected] <Chihuahuas%40yahoogroups.com> > > Subject: RE: [Chihuahuas] Ricky Needs A New Home, He Is To Aggressive > > With Family :( > > > > > > thanks sandy !! very informative =)~... i was told (and didnt research > > it) they were bred down from the Pomeranian? and those lil buggers were > > bred down from the chow... ? .. i have no idea as im a dane researcher > > lol it just made sense to me given the boldness of their nature lol > > Darcy > > > > --- On Mon, 10/25/10, Sandra Wheeler > > <[email protected]<angelthings%40comcast.net>> > wrote: > > > > > >>From: Sandra Wheeler <[email protected]<angelthings%40comcast.net> > > > >>Subject: RE: [Chihuahuas] Ricky Needs A New Home, He Is To Aggressive > >> With Family :( > >>To: [email protected] <Chihuahuas%40yahoogroups.com> > >>Date: Monday, October 25, 2010, 9:18 AM > >> > >> > >> > >>Here’s a couple of sites I found. They don’t mention chows.  > >>http://www.breederretriever.com/dog-breed-history/124/chihuahua.php > >> http://www.vipchihuahua.com/history.htm > >>http://www.barkbytes.com/history/chihua.htm > >>Sandy > >>From:[email protected] <Chihuahuas%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto: > [email protected] <Chihuahuas%40yahoogroups.com>] On > >> Behalf Of dasha > >>Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 6:53 AM > >>To: [email protected] <Chihuahuas%40yahoogroups.com> > >>Subject: RE: [Chihuahuas] Ricky Needs A New Home, He Is To Aggressive > >> With Family :( > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>First time I heard that one. Time for research > >> > > ________________________________ > > > >>From:[email protected] <Chihuahuas%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto: > [email protected] <Chihuahuas%40yahoogroups.com>] On > >> Behalf Of mj turner > >>Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 11:22 PM > >>To: [email protected] <Chihuahuas%40yahoogroups.com> > >>Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Ricky Needs A New Home, He Is To Aggressive > >> With Family :( > >> > >>really???? I had no idea they were bred down chows.....   wow, > >> Darcy, that's amazing. > >>they sure don't look like a chow......     > >>   I thought they were ... well, I don't know what I thought they > >> were..... but I never ever > >>heard anything about a chow in their ancestry.   That's > >> interesting....   > >> > >>mj > >> > >> > >> > > ________________________________ > > > >>From:Darcy Jacobs <[email protected] <flyway7500%40yahoo.com>> > >>To: [email protected] <Chihuahuas%40yahoogroups.com> > >>Sent: Sun, October 24, 2010 8:17:04 PM > >>Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Ricky Needs A New Home, He Is To Aggressive > >> With Family :( > >> > >> > >>it doesnt take bad breeders ... chi's are bred down chows ...they are > >> "spicey" dogs in a tiny package... treat them with respect.... dont > >> baby them , train them... and be fair to them ... if they earn a > >> correction give one... if they earn praise give it ...a lot. > >> > >>darcy. > >> > >>--- On Sun, 10/24/10, Nancy Lucky > >><[email protected]<nancy.lucky%40sbcglobal.net>> > wrote: > >> > >>>From: Nancy Lucky <[email protected]<nancy.lucky%40sbcglobal.net> > > > >>>Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Ricky Needs A New Home, He Is To Aggressive > >>> With Family :( > >>>To: [email protected] <Chihuahuas%40yahoogroups.com> > >>>Date: Sunday, October 24, 2010, 10:59 PM > >>>Like I said I think he had terrible breeders and maybe even cross > >>> breeding - I gave him nothing but love and he was so special to me, > >>> but it took some work. Nan > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>--- On Sun, 10/24/10, Kavi > >>><[email protected]<kaviescontinued%40yahoo.com>> > wrote: > >>> > >>>From: Kavi <[email protected] <kaviescontinued%40yahoo.com>> > >>>Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Ricky Needs A New Home, He Is To Aggressive > >>> With Family :( > >>>To: [email protected] <Chihuahuas%40yahoogroups.com> > >>>Date: Sunday, October 24, 2010, 8:51 AM > >>> > >>>Hi Nancy > >>> > >>>I know what you meant when you said you put him on his back and > >>> pinched his neck. I know this is what a momma dog will do for > >>> correction. You chi I believe was just a pup... I am shocked to hear > >>> that puppies are aggressive so young! Why? What would make a puppy be > >>> mean? Is this in the chi's nature no matter how they are raised? > >>> > >>> > >>>Shanna > >>> > >>>--- On Sat, 10/23/10, Nancy Lucky > >>><[email protected]<nancy.lucky%40sbcglobal.net>> > wrote: > >>> > >>>From: Nancy Lucky <[email protected]<nancy.lucky%40sbcglobal.net> > > > >>>Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Ricky Needs A New Home, He Is To Aggressive > >>> With Family :( > >>>To: [email protected] <Chihuahuas%40yahoogroups.com> > >>>Date: Saturday, October 23, 2010, 11:28 PM > >>>I feel like I need to clarify myself when I said I put Sami on his > >>> back and pinched his neck - I did not mean it that way as I did not > >>> pinch him to hurt him I just had my fingers on his neck to help hold > >>> him on his back. I in no way believe in any type of hitting dogs as > >>> part of training them or using shock collars or pinch chains. I do > >>> not even eat meat because of my love for animals and the belief that > >>> they do not deserve to be tortured to death and held in pens their > >>> whole life. I do not believe in any of the old trainings of the 50- > >>> 60's - rubbing a dogs nose in his urine will stop him from soiling in > >>> the house. I am a total animal lover and treat my babies as my family > >>> as they are my whole little family. I never spanked my kids and > >>> breast feed them probably longer than most people. I am just not a > >>> violent type of person and do not like killing or hurting of any > >>> living being that God put on this earth. I thought about how I said > >>> it and did not want anyone to think bad of me or to worse pinch and > >>> hurt their babies. My two chi's were potty trained in two days as I > >>> watched for signs took them out and rewarded them with a special > >>> treat. I do all my training as fun the only time I used more stern > >>> was when he was biting my grand kids as I did not want Sami to hurt > >>> others and just like the other person - Sami loved my grand kids to > >>> death. When they would spend the night he would go and sleep on top > >>> of the pillow they were using. We were all in the same bed but he > >>> wanted to be by his little friends. Well now I feel better and can go > >>> to sleep and dream of Maggie-Mae and all the fun I am going to have. > >>> My baby is coming home where she belongs. > >>>thanks for letting me go on and on, but I did not want to steer anyone > >>> in the wrong directions esp. with chi's who are so tiny and can get > >>> hurt so easily. Good night my friends, Nancy and family of three..... > >>> I love saying that:) > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>--- On Sat, 10/23/10, Deanna Corey > >>><[email protected]<myowndogpark%40yahoo.com>> > wrote: > >>> > >>>>From: Deanna Corey <[email protected] <myowndogpark%40yahoo.com>> > >>>>Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Ricky Needs A New Home, He Is To Aggressive > >>>> With Family :( > >>>>To: [email protected] <Chihuahuas%40yahoogroups.com> > >>>>Date: Saturday, October 23, 2010, 11:02 PM > >>>> > >>>>Hi Shanna, > >>>>I really like the muzzle idea for Ricky...a tool to train him with in > >>>> a safe way for others in your home. I am normally not a fan of a > >>>> muzzle but in this case it may just be the ticket if used in > >>>> conjunction with training!!  It may be worth a try. At least it > >>>> would keep others from getting bit until you can figure things out! > >>>> > >>>>Waggin' Tails in The Dog Park, > >>>>Deanna > >>>> > > >>>>                                     > >>>>                       and > >>>>  The Dog Park Pack: > >>>>Nugget, Shuai-Li, Bella, Mouse, Myrtle, Mable, Toby, Caleb and > >>>> Maxine!!! > >>and honorary non-dog members of The Dog Park: > >>Stella-Macaw, Stanley-Amazon, Miles the cat > >>www.joys4toys.com > >> > >> > >> > > ________________________________ > > > >>From:Kavi <[email protected] <kaviescontinued%40yahoo.com>> > >>To: [email protected] <Chihuahuas%40yahoogroups.com> > >>Sent: Sat, October 23, 2010 9:21:14 PM > >>Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Ricky Needs A New Home, He Is To Aggressive > >> With Family :( > >> > >> > >>hi > >>Ricky was fixed just before I adopted him. In fact, he still had his > >> stitches in when I took him home. I really feel bad for my daughter > >> that Ricky bit her like that. I told my daughter that her and her > >> boyfriend are not always going to live with me, and that if she just > >> not bother Ricky, then things will be ok. She got a kitten 2 weeks ago > >> because she said Ricky does not like her and she wanted a pet of her > >> own. So I agreed with it. As upset as I was earlier right after the > >> biting, I really know I can not give Ricky up. He was already given up > >> by one family that I know of. I'm feeling sick to my stomach just > >> thinking about it. And Ricky has no idea that his biting is not good. > >> He just does what he thinks he should do at the time. I see in my mind > >> all those poor dogs in the kennel... sad faces, given up. I do not > >> know what would happend to him in another home. How many has he been > >> in? I dont know. I have had to learn his ways as he has had to learn > >> mine. > >> > >>someone on this list asked what Ricky is eating. for the first month, > >> he was not eating any dog food at all. I ended up cooking meat for him > >> just to get him to eat. and as most of you know he was very very > >> underweight when I got him. ribs, hip bones and spine showing. He is > >> now at a pretty good weight but I would like to see a bit more meat on > >> his spine. He eats and loves the "Freshpet Select" dog food. Its the > >> only dog food he will eat. He does not like or eat any dry dog food. > >> > >> > >>I thank you all for allowing me to vent here... and I know some of you > >> are having worse problems than me, with dogs being sick, hurting, etc. > >> I really feel for you. I know you all do the best for your dogs > >> as you can to keep them healthy, happy, and pain free as possible. > >> > >> > >>I just feel a bit lost right now. I need a few days to relax and my > >> daughter to relax. > >> > >> > >>shanna > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>--- On Sat, 10/23/10, Nancy Lucky > >><[email protected]<nancy.lucky%40sbcglobal.net>> > wrote: > >> > >>From: Nancy Lucky <[email protected]<nancy.lucky%40sbcglobal.net> > > > >>Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Ricky Needs A New Home, He Is To Aggressive > >> With Family :( > >>To: [email protected] <Chihuahuas%40yahoogroups.com> > >>Date: Saturday, October 23, 2010, 6:54 PM > >>Shanna, > >>I am so sorry and know how you feel my little Sami started off that > >> way, when he was only 8 weeks old and I have him his first bath he > >> growled at me. I worked with a trainer and learned how to get him to > >> stop. He thought he owned me as we were the only people in my home and > >> he was my whole world. He also bit my grandkids a few times when he > >> was a baby but not hard and I held him on his back and pinched his > >> neck like a mother would do and then have my grandkids come and sit > >> next to him while I had him under my control. I would give him food and > >> he would have to surrender it to the kids it took a long time. He > >> eventually loved them and all my friends. He was always just my baby > >> and since we lived alone we got it under control. Sadly, Sami died of > >> some type of congential disease when he was only a little pass 2 - > >> very quickly gone. I feel now that God choose me to be his mommy > >> because I am not sure someone else would of taken the time I did. I > >> still miss him everyday. Ricky would probably be perfect for a single > >> woman living alone and she could crate him or but him in another room > >> when others came over. Again, I am so sorry and best of luck finding > >> him a home. Blessings and Hugs, Nancy and the girls > >> > >> > >> > >>--- On Sat, 10/23/10, Kavi > >><[email protected]<kaviescontinued%40yahoo.com>> > wrote: > >> > >>>From: Kavi <[email protected] <kaviescontinued%40yahoo.com>> > >>>Subject: [Chihuahuas] Ricky Needs A New Home, He Is To Aggressive With > >>> Family > >>:( > >>>To: "Chihuahuas" <[email protected]<Chihuahuas%40yahoogroups.com> > > > >>>Date: Saturday, October 23, 2010, 5:17 PM > >>> > >>>Hi Everyone > >>> > >>>Well, I have tried to work with Ricky for his aggressive behavior > >>> towards family members, but its gone to far today. My 19 year old > >>> daughter was putting his t-shirt on, then went to pick him up and he > >>> totally became angry and grabbed her hand between the thumb and > >>> finger and would not let go. He broke the skin on her hand. The > >>> other day he tried to bite my husband when he went to pet him. I am > >>> the ONLY one Ricky will not be angry with. But my family can not live > >>> in fear of a dog. I have never had a chihuahua before, or a dog that > >>> was aggressive in any way. > >>> > >>>I will be looking for a qualified home for him where its just one > >>> adult that does not have much company. That is about the only place > >>> he could live. He is just unpredictable as to what will set him off. > >>> > >>>I will not take him back to the ASPCA... I am not sure if I can find > >>> the right home for him even. As much as I love him, my family must > >>> come first. If anyone has any ideas or places I can call, please let > >>> me know. He is 4 years old and I guess just set in his ways. I have > >>> had him not even 3 months yet. I might see about a chihuahua rescue. > >>> :):) > >>> > >>> > >>>Shanna > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > This email contains correspondence from an attorney and may contain > privileged information. If you are not the intended receipient, please > delete. > > Do not tell god how big your storm is. Tell the storm how big your God is. > > http://taylorstots.tripod.com/ > > > -- *Joyce* *www.mtnviewchis.webs.com* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
