start with chicken its the least likely to cause upset... add all meats but one at a time and give weeks between new meats until you know they can tolerate all...there is no part they cant have..its not good for teeth to try and eat weight bearing bones like cow leg .... neck bones of all animals are eatable bones as are all bird bones. and all fish bones are eatable remembering ONLY RAW BONES CAN BE FED after a year of slowly introducing everything my dogs eat all parts of cow chicken deer horse goat fish turkey... but to maintain good poops the main diet is chicken quarters, whole. 3 per day per dane... and a beefy cupcake size frozen mix i blend and freeze and serve frozen with lunch... this contains their organ meats beef and whatever else was on sale that batch... its the best way to feedthe organs they dont like, but love frozen and mixed with beef. i get rough ground beef and a ground organ mix from alocal butcher... my bff and i started a co-op and call all over for sales mixes... waste, meaning organs...you get good at shopping lol.. whenever you can feed whole parts.... why do the work when its best for the dog if he does it ..i just learned how much cleaner and easier it was to mix organ with ground meats and serve frozen...the chi eats this too but i thaw it for them..... darcy --- On Wed, 11/17/10, Peggy & The Girls <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Peggy & The Girls <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] OK, lets talk Raw Feeding again..more questions To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 11:19 PM It does help, thank you. Their's a lot of info here tonight to absorb. One more thing, I see that most of the raw food is about chicken and turkey. Do you, or any one else in the group feed any type of beef or deer or even duck meat? If so how does that work? what parts do you feed and what parts are you suppose not to feed? Do you grind it all up the same way for chickens? How often can you feed the beef? ♥ Peggy & The Girls ♥ -----Original Message----- From: Darcy Jacobs <[email protected]> To: Chihuahuas <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Nov 17, 2010 11:01 pm Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] OK, lets talk Raw Feeding again.. ill speak to what i feed... and i feed danes raw too and they are vacuums lol...i only feed what i hand pick... quarters, wings, necks, ..... i just ordered 20 lbs of turkey feet as they are a great natural source for glucosamine and one dane is elderly...i will never feed guts or intestine...brain or beak or feather...i do feed kidney heart and liver... the stomach of grass fed cows and pigs (tripe) is a grand source of everything a dog can use...but very stinky so i dont use it...hope this helps... Darcy --- On Wed, 11/17/10, Peggy & The Girls <[email protected]> wrote: From: Peggy & The Girls <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] OK, lets talk Raw Feeding again.. To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 8:41 PM Thanks Kelly... so let me understand, that when a raw chicken is fed to dogs, then it does not contain the Example: Poultry by product meal = "ground, rendered, clean parts of the carcasses of slaughtered poultry, such as necks, feet, undeveloped eggs, and intestines, exclusive of feathers except in such amounts as might occur unavoidably in good processing practices. ? I understand what you are saying that in processed food their can be different types of foul animals. But I have also heard that raw feeders give their dogs the neck, guts, feet and all the intestinal parts, which I thought is considered a by-product of the chicken, and other then the quanity that you feed the dog, it is really the same thing, if a company only used all chickens in their foods, along with the real meat, right? ♥ Peggy & The Girls ♥ -----Original Message----- From: Kelly <[email protected]> To: Chihuahuas <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Nov 17, 2010 5:37 pm Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] OK, lets talk Raw Feeding again.. On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Peggy & The Girls <[email protected]> wrote: >From what I understand is that a dog has to be on all raw or on all kibble >diet, I have gotten the impression that you can't mix both. Or maybe I am >wrong? It depends. Some dogs have sensitive stomachs and may have trouble with both, but in general it shouldn't be an issue. Some people will try to scare you with the fact that kibble and raw digest differently and therefore you can only feed one, etc. etc. but in most cases a dog can eat poop with no problems, so mixing kibble and raw aren't an issue. I also understand that if you go raw, they have to have the bones as well, and in order to avoid splinters from the bones, it Has to be grinded. You should only feed raw bones. Bones do not have to be ground. A dog with lots of bad teeth or missing teeth may need ground in order to eat it. But, some dogs with missing teeth do just fine on raw. I am also confused about people saying that the by products of chicken and beef is bad for dogs, yet, if you feed raw, they Are eating the by-products of the animal, so what's the difference? "By products" listed on a dog food label are not the same thing as what someone feeding raw is giving their dog. Example: Poultry by product meal = "ground, rendered, clean parts of the carcasses of slaughtered poultry, such as necks, feet, undeveloped eggs, and intestines, exclusive of feathers except in such amounts as might occur unavoidably in good processing practices. The parts used can be obtained from any slaughtered fowl, so there is no control over the quality and consistency of individual batches. Poultry byproducts are much less expensive and less digestible than chicken meat.The ingredients of each batch can vary drastically in ingredients (heads, feet, bones, organs etc.) as well as quality, thus the nutritional value is also not consistent. Don't forget that byproducts consist of any parts of the animal OTHER than meat. If there is any use for any part of the animal that brings more profit than selling it as "byproduct", rest assured it will appear in such a product rather than in the "byproduct" dumpster" -- Kelly
