Well Becky....I would say you are right. But...that being said...I will still continue to take my dogs when I can because I just can't apply your thinking to what I do in this case. You may be 1000 % right in your thinking but I can't say I will change my ways on this one. I will continue to be as considerate as I can...not rub or flaunt my dogs presence in the face of those that wish not to see them...but I enjoy it...they enjoy it and no one else knows!! Except all of you that I will most likely never see in Target Lol!!!
Wagging Tails in the Dog Park! Deanna and the Dog Park Gang: Nugget, Shuai Li, Mable, Mouse, Myrtle, Madison, Caleb and Maxine >From the mountains of CA http://swlf.lilyslim.com/v3T7m8.png?h9j6wId9 On Feb 25, 2011, at 6:18 PM, Becky <[email protected]> wrote: > I was not saying that it pertains to you. I am saying what if everybody had > the mentality of "I will do what I want because rules don't apply to me"? > Then there would be chaos. Then people would do the things I described. Then > no one would be safe. > > There are places that are dog friendly, and personally, I would love those > places. However, if I am general public in a society with governing rules, > then I expect to go to point a and be protected from certain hazards. When > someone breaks the rules because they think they are above the rules-as in > this case-then you take away the freedoms of others, regardless of how simple > that freedom is to you or how pointless. > > I personally love seeing dogs--all dogs. Yet, I would only expect them in > certain places or in places that openly allow them. That way, if I am not > expecting to encounter a dog/cat/horse/snake/pig, etc., I can expect to be > relatively "protected" from said animals. > > I am not pointing fingers at a specific person, just advocating that rules > are in place due to general freedoms expected in our country. Freedoms I hold > dear as a military spouse--regardless of how big or small. > > As I have said earlier, I do not personally agree with breeding of cats or > dogs. However, regardless of my own personal expectations, we live in a free > country. People are permitted by law and governing rules to breed. That is > not law breaking. I can promote spay/neuter, but I can mutually respect the > right of others to do what is allowed by law. It would be ridiculous of me to > expect everyone to agree with my point if I wasn't being respectful of rules. > > Think of it across other boundaries. What if you lives in an apt and your > neighbor was a drug dealer, cooked meth, etc? They could argue it's their > home, their body, their right not to agree with the rule that politicians > made about drugs. However, their rule breaking infringes on the rights an > freedom of the safety of others. > > Just another way to think about it. > > Becky > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 25, 2011, at 9:02 PM, Deanna Corey <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Your right...it is not sinking in! What Becky described is not what i do so >> it is a moot point. What she is describing is inconsiderate, unsafe and >> unsanitary...none of those issues describe my situation. >> >> Wagging Tails in the Dog Park! >> Deanna and the Dog Park Gang: >> Nugget, Shuai Li, Mable, Mouse, Myrtle, Madison, Caleb and Maxine >> From the mountains of CA >> >> http://swlf.lilyslim.com/v3T7m8.png?h9j6wId9 >> >> On Feb 25, 2011, at 5:52 PM, "dasha" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> Exactly.. Very good points. But somehow I don't think it will sink in. >>> >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of Becky >>> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 8:48 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Esk-Chi Faries-LYNN >>> >>> I would have to argue that the rule of no dogs is quite appropriate for >>> most public settings. Perhaps if everyone ignored the dog rule there would >>> be dogs of all shapes and sizes in every store or restaurant. What if they >>> were aggressive dogs? Does that matter? Nah, because I think those rules >>> shouldn't govern me and my dog/human aggressive pet. Sounds quite >>> ridiculous doesn't it? What about people who think it's ok to allow their >>> pet to use the bathroom in those places? Would that matter? Surely not. >>> It's just a stupid rule, right? What if a dog entered those places and >>> wasn't vaccinated, got out and bit someone? Would the rule matter? What if >>> another person's dog had worms, fleas, etc., would that matter in the >>> public arena? Is it a stupid law then? >>> >>> Rules are in place for good reasons. >>> >>> Becky >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Feb 25, 2011, at 8:35 PM, "dasha" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I don't think I worded my last reply to you right. I feel like if you want >>>> to make a choice about breaking a law or whatever then do so but you can >>>> only do that freely if it hurts no one else and since we live among others >>>> I just don't think that is possible,. I believe in thinking for myself but >>>> always OF others. >>>> >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>> Behalf Of Deanna Corey >>>> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 8:33 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Esk-Chi Faries-LYNN >>>> >>>> Personally Sheila...I think it to be a stupid rule! There are many rules I >>>> break in my life because I think them stupid. I will always do this...it >>>> is who I am to some extent. I don't have a lot of trust in rules that >>>> govern people's simple choices...I like rules that govern the basic >>>> principles of right and wrong...not stupid stuff. Do you realize how many >>>> laws are on the books out of complete stupidity?? I wont obey those >>>> either. Call me a rebel...but I will always break or ignore stupid rules. >>>> I don't like others imposing their stupidity on me...I never will! And >>>> trust me when I say that just because some politician came up with some >>>> rule, that alone will not sway me to find it valuable or important...or >>>> something i myself condone or will allow myself to be governed by...i will >>>> always decide for myself what is worth obeying. I do not see bowing to >>>> legislation as right or wrong...I see choosing to do right or wrong and it >>>> has nothing to do with "political policy"... Just my 2 cents. I stand >>>> ready to take the consequences if there are fines or whatever but I will >>>> gladly pay the price and then continue to choose. So...we just see things >>>> differently. I don't flow with the status quo just because it >>>> exists...never have...never will!! >>>> >>>> Wagging Tails in the Dog Park! >>>> Deanna and the Dog Park Gang: >>>> Nugget, Shuai Li, Mable, Mouse, Myrtle, Madison, Caleb and Maxine >>>> From the mountains of CA >>>> >>>> http://swlf.lilyslim.com/v3T7m8.png?h9j6wId9 >>>> >>>> On Feb 25, 2011, at 5:03 PM, "dasha" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yeah, sorry Deanna but if your dog is not allowed and you sneak it in >>>>> anyway then you break the rules. Why do you feel this is ok? Seriously? >>>>> Okey dokey. For me, just because no one knows it does not make it right. >>>>> I just have this very strong sense of right and wrong and fairness. >>>>> >>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>>> Behalf Of Deanna Corey >>>>> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 7:19 PM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Esk-Chi Faries-LYNN >>>>> >>>>> I think the key word is sneak Sheila!! I take my little guys everywhere >>>>> an no one ever knows...so it can't ruin anything cuz no one knows lol! >>>>> Mouse and Myrtle have been to the movies, claim jumper, all sorts of >>>>> stores, and everywhere I go...no one ever knows....sneaky is the >>>>> operative word!! >>>>> >>>>> Wagging Tails in the Dog Park! >>>>> Deanna and the Dog Park Gang: >>>>> Nugget, Shuai Li, Mable, Mouse, Myrtle, Madison, Caleb and Maxine >>>>> From the mountains of CA >>>>> >>>>> http://swlf.lilyslim.com/v3T7m8.png?h9j6wId9 >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 25, 2011, at 4:05 PM, Peggy & The Girls <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Could you please explain your negative reply further? If your referring >>>>>> to service dogs and blind-aid dogs, I fail to see how that ''makes it >>>>>> harder for places to accept dogs that need to be with their owners for a >>>>>> reason'' since these dogs wear vest to prove why they have to be allowed >>>>>> by law. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -------Original Message------- >>>>>> >>>>>> From: dasha >>>>>> Date: 2/25/2011 6:29:08 PM >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: RE: [Chihuahuas] Esk-Chi Faries-LYNN >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> But when you sneak a dog in like that it just makes it much harder for >>>>>> places to accept dogs that need to be with their owners for a reason. >>>>>> >>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>>>> Behalf Of Peggy & The Girls >>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 5:32 PM >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Esk-Chi Faries-LYNN >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, I remember...I was just hoping that He changed his mind by now, >>>>>> especially since their have been postings of several rescue dogs in need >>>>>> of homes and now puppies are available, which doesn't happen to often. >>>>>> >>>>>> Well I guess you can continue to enjoy the group, in the mean time! You >>>>>> know, if you do get a tiny chi, they fit beautifully in a purse bag that >>>>>> even in restaurants it will fit under your seat. As long as the dog is >>>>>> completely covered and is a quiet dog. Some of them look just like a >>>>>> real purse and you can't tell that there is a dog in it. >>>>>> >>>>>> <image1.gif> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -------Original Message------- >>>>>> >>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>> Date: 2/25/2011 3:28:07 PM >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Esk-Chi Faries-LYNN >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> In a message dated 2/24/2011 10:45:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >>>>>> [email protected] writes: >>>>>> Ohhhhh, that is really sweet of you to offer that Peggy, and thank you >>>>>> so much, but as you might have picked up from some of my comments in the >>>>>> past, my husband is not as enthused about having a Chihuahua as I am. He >>>>>> feels they are much more responsibility than cats (he's right) and he >>>>>> enjoys the ease with which we can be gone from home for extended periods >>>>>> of time (all day, overnight, etc.) without any cares. I explained he or >>>>>> she would just go with us everywhere, but he mentioned restaurants, >>>>>> stores, and various other places we go that will not accept furry ones. >>>>>> I hate to go against his wishes and just show up with an adorable little >>>>>> one without his blessing as he is a really kind, loving, and thoughtful >>>>>> guy and don't want to make him feel unhappy since the decision would >>>>>> impact him also. He oohs and aahs all the pictures I show him of >>>>>> everyone's cuties here on the group, but he really would prefer we not >>>>>> have one for our own. (Sigh). So I am weighing all my options and >>>>>> biding my time (LOL) to make the best possible decision for everyone in >>>>>> my family. In the meantime, I love living vicariously through and >>>>>> hearing about everyone else's experiences with their Chis on the group, >>>>>> but IF and WHEN, you will all be the first to see and hear about the >>>>>> newest member of my family. Promise. >>>>>> >>>>>> LYNN >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> So when are you getting your dog, so I can do a pic for you? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -------Original Message------- >>>>>> >>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>> Date: 2/24/2011 7:32:54 PM >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Esk-Chi Faries >>>>>> >>>>>> If the credit is deserved, if should be observed (LOL), but I know I am >>>>>> not the only one that appreciates your artwork talent Peggy. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lynn >>>>>> >>>>>> In a message dated 2/24/2011 6:47:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >>>>>> [email protected] writes: >>>>>> <OTHER0~1112.GIF> Lynn, Lol, I think I am going to nominate you as my >>>>>> best critic! <hehe16223.gif> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hugs, >>>>>> Peggy & The Girls >>>>>> >>>>>> <HNDimg34.gif> >>>>>> >>>>>> <HNDimg5.gif> >>>>>> >>>>>> <HNDimg.gif> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > >
