Rio has gone in the WM near us several times….all the associates that see him ooh and ahh over the “invisible” dog. I’ve never been told, even by a manager, to take him out. But he doesn’t go to restaurants with me or grocery stores. He either stays in the car if the weather is ok or stays home.
Sandy From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Deanna Corey Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 7:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Esk-Chi Faries-LYNN And I think it all depends on the walmart too...the one in Redlands is always fine with mine...I put them in their cart cover...no issues...but the walmart closer to me has a cow...so we don't go there....one carries lots of food...in refrigerator cases etc...the Redlands one just has one aisle of canned foods, coffees and teaS...i wonder if that makes a difference. Wagging Tails in the Dog Park! Deanna and the Dog Park Gang: Nugget, Shuai Li, Mable, Mouse, Myrtle, Madison, Caleb and Maxine >From the mountains of CA http://swlf.lilyslim.com/v3T7m8.png?h9j6wId9 On Feb 25, 2011, at 6:35 PM, Becky <[email protected]> wrote: Honestly, if I saw your dog I would ooohhhhh and aaawwww too. I saw a cute little yorkie pup that a woman wasn't trying to conceal. She was in Wal-Mart. It was a hot sunny day. She didn't want to leave the poor dog in the car. However, she had the dog with her and needed to pick up her medication. The lady in the front would not allow her to take the dog into the store. She threatened to call the police and the health dept. I was surprised at her point, but learned that they can lose their license or be fined (which would be a drop in the bucket at big chain stores). It would still be a mark against them. They want to be in the good graces of governing offices. She left with her dog. I felt bad for the lady. On a personal level I didn't think it was a big deal, but I could understand in another way. That yorkie was adorable! I would have stayed outside with the dog and accepted doggie kisses while she got her meds, but I didn't think she would trust a stranger with her precious baby. Becky Sent from my iPhone On Feb 25, 2011, at 9:29 PM, Deanna Corey <[email protected]> wrote: Well Becky....I would say you are right. But...that being said...I will still continue to take my dogs when I can because I just can't apply your thinking to what I do in this case. You may be 1000 % right in your thinking but I can't say I will change my ways on this one. I will continue to be as considerate as I can...not rub or flaunt my dogs presence in the face of those that wish not to see them...but I enjoy it...they enjoy it and no one else knows!! Except all of you that I will most likely never see in Target Lol!!! Wagging Tails in the Dog Park! Deanna and the Dog Park Gang: Nugget, Shuai Li, Mable, Mouse, Myrtle, Madison, Caleb and Maxine >From the mountains of CA http://swlf.lilyslim.com/v3T7m8.png?h9j6wId9 On Feb 25, 2011, at 6:18 PM, Becky <[email protected]> wrote: I was not saying that it pertains to you. I am saying what if everybody had the mentality of "I will do what I want because rules don't apply to me"? Then there would be chaos. Then people would do the things I described. Then no one would be safe. There are places that are dog friendly, and personally, I would love those places. However, if I am general public in a society with governing rules, then I expect to go to point a and be protected from certain hazards. When someone breaks the rules because they think they are above the rules-as in this case-then you take away the freedoms of others, regardless of how simple that freedom is to you or how pointless. I personally love seeing dogs--all dogs. Yet, I would only expect them in certain places or in places that openly allow them. That way, if I am not expecting to encounter a dog/cat/horse/snake/pig, etc., I can expect to be relatively "protected" from said animals. I am not pointing fingers at a specific person, just advocating that rules are in place due to general freedoms expected in our country. Freedoms I hold dear as a military spouse--regardless of how big or small. As I have said earlier, I do not personally agree with breeding of cats or dogs. However, regardless of my own personal expectations, we live in a free country. People are permitted by law and governing rules to breed. That is not law breaking. I can promote spay/neuter, but I can mutually respect the right of others to do what is allowed by law. It would be ridiculous of me to expect everyone to agree with my point if I wasn't being respectful of rules. Think of it across other boundaries. What if you lives in an apt and your neighbor was a drug dealer, cooked meth, etc? They could argue it's their home, their body, their right not to agree with the rule that politicians made about drugs. However, their rule breaking infringes on the rights an freedom of the safety of others. Just another way to think about it. Becky Sent from my iPhone On Feb 25, 2011, at 9:02 PM, Deanna Corey <[email protected]> wrote: Your right...it is not sinking in! What Becky described is not what i do so it is a moot point. What she is describing is inconsiderate, unsafe and unsanitary...none of those issues describe my situation. Wagging Tails in the Dog Park! Deanna and the Dog Park Gang: Nugget, Shuai Li, Mable, Mouse, Myrtle, Madison, Caleb and Maxine >From the mountains of CA http://swlf.lilyslim.com/v3T7m8.png?h9j6wId9 On Feb 25, 2011, at 5:52 PM, "dasha" <[email protected]> wrote: Exactly.. Very good points. But somehow I don't think it will sink in. _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Becky Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 8:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Esk-Chi Faries-LYNN I would have to argue that the rule of no dogs is quite appropriate for most public settings. Perhaps if everyone ignored the dog rule there would be dogs of all shapes and sizes in every store or restaurant. What if they were aggressive dogs? Does that matter? Nah, because I think those rules shouldn't govern me and my dog/human aggressive pet. Sounds quite ridiculous doesn't it? What about people who think it's ok to allow their pet to use the bathroom in those places? Would that matter? Surely not. It's just a stupid rule, right? What if a dog entered those places and wasn't vaccinated, got out and bit someone? Would the rule matter? What if another person's dog had worms, fleas, etc., would that matter in the public arena? Is it a stupid law then? Rules are in place for good reasons. Becky Sent from my iPhone On Feb 25, 2011, at 8:35 PM, "dasha" <[email protected]> wrote: I don't think I worded my last reply to you right. I feel like if you want to make a choice about breaking a law or whatever then do so but you can only do that freely if it hurts no one else and since we live among others I just don't think that is possible,. I believe in thinking for myself but always OF others. _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Deanna Corey Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 8:33 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Esk-Chi Faries-LYNN Personally Sheila...I think it to be a stupid rule! There are many rules I break in my life because I think them stupid. I will always do this...it is who I am to some extent. I don't have a lot of trust in rules that govern people's simple choices...I like rules that govern the basic principles of right and wrong...not stupid stuff. Do you realize how many laws are on the books out of complete stupidity?? I wont obey those either. Call me a rebel...but I will always break or ignore stupid rules. I don't like others imposing their stupidity on me...I never will! And trust me when I say that just because some politician came up with some rule, that alone will not sway me to find it valuable or important...or something i myself condone or will allow myself to be governed by...i will always decide for myself what is worth obeying. I do not see bowing to legislation as right or wrong...I see choosing to do right or wrong and it has nothing to do with "political policy"... Just my 2 cents. I stand ready to take the consequences if there are fines or whatever but I will gladly pay the price and then continue to choose. So...we just see things differently. I don't flow with the status quo just because it exists...never have...never will!! Wagging Tails in the Dog Park! Deanna and the Dog Park Gang: Nugget, Shuai Li, Mable, Mouse, Myrtle, Madison, Caleb and Maxine >From the mountains of CA http://swlf.lilyslim.com/v3T7m8.png?h9j6wId9 On Feb 25, 2011, at 5:03 PM, "dasha" <[email protected]> wrote: Yeah, sorry Deanna but if your dog is not allowed and you sneak it in anyway then you break the rules. Why do you feel this is ok? Seriously? Okey dokey. For me, just because no one knows it does not make it right. I just have this very strong sense of right and wrong and fairness. _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Deanna Corey Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 7:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Esk-Chi Faries-LYNN I think the key word is sneak Sheila!! I take my little guys everywhere an no one ever knows...so it can't ruin anything cuz no one knows lol! Mouse and Myrtle have been to the movies, claim jumper, all sorts of stores, and everywhere I go...no one ever knows....sneaky is the operative word!! Wagging Tails in the Dog Park! Deanna and the Dog Park Gang: Nugget, Shuai Li, Mable, Mouse, Myrtle, Madison, Caleb and Maxine >From the mountains of CA http://swlf.lilyslim.com/v3T7m8.png?h9j6wId9 On Feb 25, 2011, at 4:05 PM, Peggy & The Girls <[email protected]> wrote: Could you please explain your negative reply further? If your referring to service dogs and blind-aid dogs, I fail to see how that ''makes it harder for places to accept dogs that need to be with their owners for a reason'' since these dogs wear vest to prove why they have to be allowed by law. -------Original Message------- From: dasha <mailto:[email protected]> Date: 2/25/2011 6:29:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [Chihuahuas] Esk-Chi Faries-LYNN But when you sneak a dog in like that it just makes it much harder for places to accept dogs that need to be with their owners for a reason. _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Peggy & The Girls Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 5:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Esk-Chi Faries-LYNN Yes, I remember...I was just hoping that He changed his mind by now, especially since their have been postings of several rescue dogs in need of homes and now puppies are available, which doesn't happen to often. Well I guess you can continue to enjoy the group, in the mean time! You know, if you do get a tiny chi, they fit beautifully in a purse bag that even in restaurants it will fit under your seat. As long as the dog is completely covered and is a quiet dog. Some of them look just like a real purse and you can't tell that there is a dog in it. <image1.gif> -------Original Message------- From: [email protected] Date: 2/25/2011 3:28:07 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Esk-Chi Faries-LYNN In a message dated 2/24/2011 10:45:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Ohhhhh, that is really sweet of you to offer that Peggy, and thank you so much, but as you might have picked up from some of my comments in the past, my husband is not as enthused about having a Chihuahua as I am. He feels they are much more responsibility than cats (he's right) and he enjoys the ease with which we can be gone from home for extended periods of time (all day, overnight, etc.) without any cares. I explained he or she would just go with us everywhere, but he mentioned restaurants, stores, and various other places we go that will not accept furry ones. I hate to go against his wishes and just show up with an adorable little one without his blessing as he is a really kind, loving, and thoughtful guy and don't want to make him feel unhappy since the decision would impact him also. He oohs and aahs all the pictures I show him of everyone's cuties here on the group, but he really would prefer we not have one for our own. (Sigh). So I am weighing all my options and biding my time (LOL) to make the best possible decision for everyone in my family. In the meantime, I love living vicariously through and hearing about everyone else's experiences with their Chis on the group, but IF and WHEN, you will all be the first to see and hear about the newest member of my family. Promise. LYNN So when are you getting your dog, so I can do a pic for you? -------Original Message------- From: [email protected] Date: 2/24/2011 7:32:54 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Esk-Chi Faries If the credit is deserved, if should be observed (LOL), but I know I am not the only one that appreciates your artwork talent Peggy. Lynn In a message dated 2/24/2011 6:47:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: <OTHER0~1112.GIF> Lynn, Lol, I think I am going to nominate you as my best critic! <hehe16223.gif> Hugs, Peggy & The Girls <HNDimg34.gif> <HNDimg5.gif> <HNDimg.gif>
