> The pulse happenes every 2ms > it's amplitude is about 300~400mV peak to peak. > so the risetime is about 0.4ms (from 3.3v to 3.5v) > yelding 0.8ms for the fall time (3.5v to 3.1v) > and then back to 3.3V > (well you get the idea ;-)
And what current runs? Uwe is right about the ferrite beads. Make sure that you do not use the ones that act like coils, but that ones with a huge loss factor! Do use several elkos with low ESR, test with it to see if it makes a difference. See Uwe's email. I do not think the beads are your problem here. A risetime of 0.4 ms means frequencys in the region of 2 kHz to 20 kHz. I expect ferrite bead problems in the MHz regions, not here. But I do think you have a current handling problem. What you can have here is a voltage regulator that is not stable enough. Does it get feedback voltages somewhere? If only the feedback drops, the regulator will give a (too) high output voltage. Espcially the voltage getting too high shows problems in that direction. Check the '0' volt lines, they often go up at larger currents giving problems that often are difficult to understand at first sight. An example is the lights of your cars dashboard light up a little when you brake, or use the wipers etc, usually caused by bad ground contacts.. Pieter > > Pieter Hoeben wrote: > > >>Hi, > >>the board is 18 layer board. > >>all the powering is done using the folowing scheme: > >>1. all major power consumers have a sepparate "iland" under it (in one > >>of the layers) connected to the main supply (ie 3.3 / 1.5V) with a > >>Ferrite Bead, and a large capasitor (typicly 47uF tantalum) on both > >>sides of te bead. in addition there are decoupling capacitors (0.1uf/ > >>22pf) on each power terminal of the FPGA. > >>All of the parts run from 120MHz clock distributed from CY2309. > >>replacing the clock splitter with an industrial device, reduced the > >>amounty of errors i get from the FPGAs. > >>the power consuption is as folowing: showing the power line and > >>consumption (where H stand for High and L for Low) > >>/\ __/\ __ > >> \/ \/ > >>LHHHHHLHHHHH > >> > >>the rise of the graph is on LOW power consuption (i think it got some > >>thing to do with the responce time of the Power Supply i.e.: it feels > >>high current, but take time to stabilize the voltage level, so we see > >>power drop. then the current fall and we see a power rise) > >> > >> > > > >To get an idea of the frequency, what is the risetime, up/down time > >and falltime of this puls? > > > >Pieter > > > > > > > >> > >> > >>Pieter Hoeben wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>>here is a weered problem i stuck with developing a board of mine. > >>>>it's a very heavy loaded board with many FPGA's on that "eat" a lot of > >>>>power (100W) > >>>>the problem is that those FPGA's do a heavy work once every 2msec wich > >>>>creates power drop of about 0.2 volt. > >>>>it results with the voltage looking like this: > >>>>/\ ___/\ ___ > >>>> \/ \/ > >>>>where the mean voltage is 3.3V > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>Hi Michael, is the horizontal line the 3.3V? In that case > >>>I do not only see a power drop, but also a power voltage rise? > >>>That means that something may be reflecting, too much > >>>inductance etc. Is it a multilayer with two power planes? > >>> > >>>You must use several capacitors, spread all over the board. > >>>But do NOT place them neatly as you used to learn at school. > >>>All those neat distances of th same length lead to a lot of > >>>circuits with the same resonance frequency. If this is what > >>>you have, user smaller and/or larger capaitors on several places. > >>> > >>>Regards, > >>> > >>>Pieter Hoeben > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>anyone know how to deal with thease voltage dropout (thy cause > >>>>malfunctioning of the curcit) > >>>>Author: Michael Gefen > >>>> INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>______________________________________________ > >>> > >>> Hoeben Electronics Phone: +31 6 51590081 > >>> Ronkert 44 Fax: +31 13 5096025 > >>> 5094 EW Lage Mierde Private: +31 13 5096200 > >>> The Netherlands E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> http://www.hoeben.com > >>>______________________________________________ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>-- > >>Author: Michael Gefen > >> INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >>Fat City Hosting, San Diego, California -- http://www.fatcity.com > >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > >>to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > >>the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB CHIPDIR-L > >>(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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