Hi Brett, Everything has been said above, but across numerous posts. To summarize "I like Chrome, but Bookmarks and form filling have been neglected."
I'll try and explain again... :) There are two problems I aim to fix: 1) Improved password manager. From my experience and reading the bug system, your current password manager is poor. It is uncontrollable, and has inherent problems filling fields that users do not want filled, no security of stored credentials, and lack of support for multiple logins (Eg for Google Apps). Please consider my new passcards instead! Conceptually, a passcard works like a bookmark, and is a bookmark, plus the contents of a form, and the submit action. Your current system only stores a username and password, and is invisible. Similar to (or from) your bookmarks toolbar, you can see and select a passcard which will navigate to and load the web page, fill the form and do a submit in a single action. As you surf the web nothing will ever be filled, and you need never know the passcard system is at work! However as you surf the browser will scan its passcards and if there is one matching the current page a button will light (It does this at the moment for the star button). At present, your password manager would fill the form and you would have to click the submit button on the form. Instead, you now click the toolbar button. This will check your permission to use the passcard, then fill and submit the form. If there are multiple matching you can choose which one to use. If you only want to fill and not submit this will be supported (allowing you to edit prior to submit). It will also have an option to only fill empty fields. Or you can just ignore the button. If the existing password manager is wrong you have to delete the field entries! The existing system only supports a username and password. My system will support unlimited fields. A possible extension could also store your address or credit card number for filling into any form. 2) Accessing my bookmarks. I have Chrome reload my last tabs on startup, and would prefer to have my bookmark bar hidden (33% less Chrome) but I can't! In this case (Ie reusing tabs) it is impossible to access my bookmarks without typing in the Omnibox! We need a button on the main toolbar for navigating to bookmarks! I need to experiment for the best way to implement this, ideally reusing an existing button. This will enable me to have much less Chrome in normal circumstances. Needless to say this integrates nicely with my proposal for (1). 3) New manager interface for bookmarks and passcards. This is not a problem (I said I was fixing 2 problems), but will be essential if progressing the above. The bookmark backend will also need work. While I'm in there will add support for labels, favicons, thumbnails and support any future properties. I know what I am on about with UI design -> I guarantee I will simplify Chrome's interface, and enhance usability! No browser currently has such wide ranging auto fill systems, so until you have used it you might not realise the difference! When Peter said I was at the UI design stage I disagree - I want to add the features. How it is accessible at the end of the day is hard to say without some experimentation, and very easy to change! You may want to design this yourselves once it is working! I have just found your video today on the Chrome homepage where you say every pixel was scrutinized. Was this documented? My questions about this aspect are: Why do you have a reload and go button that both do the same thing? Why does the bookmark bar not expand, scroll or intelligently reorganise when the buttons don't fit on one line (maybe another job for me)? Why is the Task Manager accessed on the Page menu? Why is the Home button hidden by default? Why does View Source in Page menu not load the webkit inspector? When there is only one tab, why not hide the tab bar? Most people have 16:9 monitors ... as vertical space is more precious than horizontal could we have the tabs down the side? Have you trialled hovering to do things instead of clicking? Will keep this thread updated (unless you ask me to use somewhere else). To conclude, I wish to throw away your password manager (sorry), add a new (or change an existing) button to access bookmarks, passcards and management screens, and tweak your bookmark system to replace the password manager and do form filling, bringing the whole subsystem into line with your existing history/smart homepage subsystem. Regards, Chris PS. Can someone make me a project member? Also is it possible to share experimental code with you all? A picture is worth a thousand words - but an interactive program is worth a thousand pictures! On Oct 19, 5:29 pm, Brett Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Chris, > > It looks like you've done a lot of work understanding out architecture > and code. This is great. > > However, I don't understand your high-level goal. Before you were > talking about a bookmarks manager, now you're talking about "fill and > submit a normal form or modal dialogue on a webpage automatically." I > don't really understand what this means, and I can't make any > determination about your low level items you mention here without > understanding what you're actually trying to build. > > Brett --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Chromium-dev" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
