Thanks anyway :(

Any timeframe for an extention system - then I can go my own way!

Chris


On Oct 21, 5:49 am, "Peter Kasting" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Chris G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Ok so where are we?
>
> Close to ending this thread, as it doesn't seem to be going anywhere.  I
> don't have the time or energy to continue replying, so this will probably be
> my final response.
>
> Is there any agreement we can reach about _what_ I am trying to
>
> > achieve?
>
> Doubtful.
>
> >  For the password manager, I want to fix my multiple login
> > scenario with Google Apps, and support the multiple stage bank login
> > scenario.
>
> Neither of which is a priority for us.  Few people create multiple logins on
> the same site with the same username and so designing UI to support them is
> an edge case.  The bank scenario is _purposefully_ designed (by banks!) to
> break browser autofilling, and any countering of that we do is likely to:
> * Get Chromium-based browsers banned from banking sites
> * Cause banks to work around whatever heuristics we have until they don't
> work
>
> (It is OK at this point to curse bank site authors, I frequently do)
>
>  For bookmarks, switching from mouse to keyboard every time
>
> > is a large inconvenience!
>
> What, to log in?  You should be able to stay on your mouse and just click
> the "submit" button, except for the aforementioned multiple login case.
>  (Which I don't have much sympathy for; why not use distinct usernames for
> your distinct accounts?  I have three Google logins, but they have different
> usernames.)
>
> > as program
> > designer, effort should be made to accommodate everyone!
>
> Sorry, but this is completely wrong.  UI that tries to accommodate everyone
> serves no one best.  We have made explicit choices not to support certain
> usage patterns in the past and will continue to do so in the future.  No UI
> can possibly serve all users equally and trying is foolish.  This is one
> benefit to having multiple browsers; different products are better for
> different people.  I actively recommend Firefox over Google Chrome to some
> of my friends that I know would be better served by it.
>
> > Could you perhaps suggest another way of addressing the shortcomings I
> > have highlighted?
>
> I already suggested waiting for us to do some work on improving form filling
> and bookmarks management.  Both are areas we're actively working on.
>
> Were you saying No to both my ideas for changes to the star button, or
>
> > just to swapping the current function to a long click?
>
> Sadly, I was saying no to pretty much all the ideas.  I don't think your
> proposals are something we would accept patches for at this time.  Again,
> please revisit the situation over time as we try and address these issues
> and see whether we're improving things for you.
>
> Best wishes.
>
> PK
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