BTW this is something that we want to pursue independently of whether
or not it's in HTML5... we already have app frames/app shortcuts, we
would like to streamline this some. If someone wants to work with
other vendors to come up with a standardized version great, so long as
the UA controls the UX and can extend the feature set in a compatible
way.

-Ben

On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Ben Goodger (Google) <[email protected]> wrote:
> I don't think Hixie was a huge fan of it iirc ;-) He didn't like the
> idea of "installing" webapps... though that's just a UA defined
> semantic.
>
> -Ben
>
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Jeremy Orlow <[email protected]> wrote:
>> That seems like a good plan.  Has anyone ever tried formalizing it and
>> floating it around to other vendors?
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Ben Goodger (Google) <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> This relates somewhat to how we'd like people to "install" web
>>> applications.
>>>
>>> For that we figured a site would publish a manifest in some format
>>> (there was some talk about something like the extensions manifest)
>>> that specifies all kinds of appy things a site can do, like large
>>> icons, protocol schemes and mime types it can handle and the URLs for
>>> each, etc etc.
>>>
>>> The UA would expose some way to activate all of this functionality for
>>> a site in "one shot"... e.g. if the site published the data via some
>>> kind of <link> tag then a menu item in the browser might activate that
>>> the user could use to activate it.
>>>
>>> -Ben
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Jeremy Orlow <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Peter Kasting <[email protected]>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Jeremy Orlow <[email protected]>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Is this API even part of any standard?  Maybe we should bring this up
>>> >>> on
>>> >>> WhatWG?
>>> >>
>>> >> The thread title is a clue that these are specced in HTML5 :)
>>> >
>>> > Not really.  People abuse the term HTML5.  Good example: WebSockets,
>>> > WebDatabase, LocalStorage, Workers, and many of the other APIs we
>>> > associate
>>> > with HTML5 are not in that spec.
>>> > Anyhow, apparently this was discussed very recently and I somehow missed
>>> > the
>>> >
>>> > discussion: http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2009-September/023084.html
>>> > I'll try to take a look at the thread some time soon.  Ben and/or other
>>> > UI
>>> > guys, maybe you should too.  Now is the time to make noise if we think
>>> > this
>>> > is a bad API.
>>> > J
>>
>>
>

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