> David Armstrong wrote: >> What is the progress of Lumiera? Valentina Messeri schrieb: > ....about Lumiera only there's a name and a logo... ... plus an increasing and constantly growing source base. http://www.ohloh.net/p/lumiera/analyses/latest
But vale, you're indeed right! No finished application an end user could try out in the near future. And an "its done when it's done" mentality amongst the developers ;-) Well, duke nukem will be released in May :-P Gour schrieb: > ... but I've feeling it's a bit over ambitious project who won't be finished > for a long time when it's the question how the video editing will look like > then. :-) you should note the point that we (Lumiera devs) use Cinelerra for our ongoing Video work. We know how to handle it and (as someone else pointed out already) Cinelerra really works. It is made out of compressed bugs, which make a quite rugged and impenetrable material anyway.... ;-) This results in the strange situation that for *us* there is no urge to get a working professional solution, because there is one. Also, we don't want to spend years of our life just to re-implement something existing. Indeed, our initial premise was to revamp Cinelerra -- but a more in-depth analysis showed so deeply rooted problems, that in effect, repair means replacing every single piece, but sticking to the (very good) basic concept. Thus certainly we're talking about several man years of work. And that is what Lumieara is all about, at least to start with. >> Isn't that intended to be the replacement for Cinelerra? > It's...for me who is heading towards FreeBSD, it looks it won't be adequate > solution considering it is described as "...application project for > GNU/Linux" and there is no Cinellerra port for BSD. BSD is not so far away from Linux. "GNU/Linux" especially means "sorry guys, a Windows port is not our priority, and a multiple-OS based product is also not our priority either". >> If so, should energy be focused there? Gour, you correctly noticed that Lumiera's Goals are highly ambitious. But rest assured, we know to distinguish between near term and far-term. Unfortunately, most of the publicly visible discussion concentrates on the Vision, the Architecture and where we want to go eventually, which is way more far-term then the things we're working on right now. Speaking for Lumiera as well as for Cinelerra, the single and most important limiting factor is the lack of appropriate developer power. This seems to be the fate of all those more ambitious expert projects. You need people with some understanding of the domain (media handling, film making) plus either the so called "intermediate" skill level (not master, not beginner, but industrial strength) or at least the will and time to do a concentrated and long-term commitment or learning effort to get beyond the beginner level. Such folks do exist, indeed. Over the course of the years, we've seen quite some skilled people appear and help. But -- given the usual course of life -- most of them disappear eventually, having a "real life", heading towards an thrilling expert career or founding a family. >> if not, where is Cinelerra headed? > Who knows... While we're at it: where do we want to go with Cinelerra? What Herman Robak proposes sounds quite reasonable for me. It boils down to keeping it usable and fixing the most annoying shortcomings, but basically keeping it alive and unique as it is today! Cheers, Hermann Vosseler (aka "Ichthyo") _______________________________________________ Cinelerra mailing list [email protected] https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
