It may help to think of it this way.  When you have a single physical and
logical interface, it is easy for the router to determine how to process the
incoming/outgoing traffic, it just uses the attributes assigned to the
interface, that is its only option.

When you add a subinterface, while you are not adding another physical
interface, from the router's perspective and for routing/policy functions
you are.  The router now has to be able to differentiate incoming/outgoing
traffic on that interface using some parameter, and determine which
sub-interface the traffic belongs to so that it can set policies, perform
filtering etc.

So, what methods do you have to give the router some way of differentiating
traffic when you have a single physical, but multiple logical interfaces?
You have frame relay dlcis (WAN), atm pvcs (WAN) and vlan assignments for
Ethernet (LAN).  What you have done now is enabled the router to
differentiate incoming/outgoing traffic and determine by some parameter
which sub-interface the traffic is assigned to.  

If you have point to point serial interfaces, you can run frame relay back
to back with sub-interfaces to test this, I can't find the link right now
but I am sure it is in the archives somewhere.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Rich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 11:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Stuck on Subinterfaces - HELP! [7:74854]

Could someone help a CCNP student who is really confused?  I am currently 
studying for the BSCI Routing Exam using the Sybex Books on a home Lab of 4 
2500's and 1 2600.  It has been working great and I have always been very 
pleased with the Sybex Series.  Unfortunately they have never covered 
Subinterfaces well enough and many of the Labs In the CCNP BSCI book are
using
them without much explanation.  They have various Labs that use OSPF, IS-IS,

BGP etc. to route IP over Serial Subinterfaces on what I see as just a
"Plain
old LAN".  All they do is show the IP Addresses and Networks already
arranged,
some on Serial Subinterfaces, and go right into the Routing Protocol 
configurations.  They don't say anything at this point about using a Frame 
Relay, ATM, IPX, or ISL for VLAN's on them in this book.  Those topics are 
covered in the Remote Access and Switching Books.  My problem is:  when I
set
up Subinterfaces on the Serial Ports with IP Addresses, set the clocking,
and
then bring up the interfaces, they all show as Interface Up and Line
Protocol
up - But I just can't seem to Ping any of the IP's on the Serial ports if
they,
or the other end they are attached to, are Subinterfaces.  If I can't Ping I

sure can't route right?  When I stick to regular physical interfaces, 
everything works great.  Am I missing something important?  If any of you
Cisco
Experts out there could offer any suggestions, I would hugely appreciate
it.
I'm kind of stuck on Stall right now and can't move on to any of the other
Labs
until I resolve this.  Thanks.

Rich.
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