Use no keep alive statements and connect the back-back cables..
Then set the interfaces for frame encapsulation..


Larry Letterman
Cisco Systems




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Lupi, Guy
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 8:49 AM
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Subject: RE: Stuck on Subinterfaces - HELP! [7:74854]


Yes, when I say frame relay back to back or point to point I mean that
you can have one router's serial directly connected to another's and run
frame relay sub interfaces on each, with no frame switch.  Unfortunately
I don't have the link that shows how to do this and I never memorized
it, I am sure someone on the list does though.

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Orabone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 9:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Stuck on Subinterfaces - HELP! [7:74854]

Thanks for the detailed description Guy.  That helps quite a bit.  I
think maybe the Book just assumes that when you see IP's on Serial
Subinterfaces, you will understand that Frame Relay Encapsulation was
set up on them ahead of time and just skips ahead to the OSPF, IS-IS
configurations.  So I skipped ahead yesterday to the Remote Access Book
and learned all about Frame Relay Networks.

Another question then:  When you say "Frame Relay running Back to Back",
does this mean that I could set up Frame Relay Point-to-Point
Encapsulation between Serial Subinterfaces on 2 Routers directly without
a Frame Relay Switch or Network in the middle?  If so this may be what
is shown in the Labs in the Book.  Thanks Again.

Rich.
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