If I gave you all of the manuals and engineering specs on a car and told you
to study them and then tested you on every detail in those books and you
were able to pass the test would that prove anything?
If I then gave you all of the tools and all of the parts to a car and said
"build it" and you successfully built it, and I then sent you away and I
broke the car (in several ways) and told you to come back and fix it and you
were able to fix it would this prove anything?
Obviously it would prove a lot. This is what the CCIE certfication is like.
You must study all of the networking manuals and know every detail and pass
a difficult exam to prove your knowledge. Then you are given all of the
tools and equipment you need and you must build an extremely complex routing
and switching network in a very short amount of time using very limiting
rules. If you succesfully complete the task, you then get to leave while
someone "breaks your network in any untold number of ways" you are then
told to fix it once again in a very limited time frame.
If you can accomplish this, then you become a CCIE. I think the CCIE
certification proves a lot. It proves you have the knowledge, the ability
and the troubleshooting skills. It also shows you can work under pressure to
accomplish a goal in a limited time.
But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong <grin>
Louie Belt
CCIE #7054
-----Original Message-----
From: The.Rock
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 3/19/01 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Reply to The Rock
oh yeah one more thing...In case you forgot, certs don't prove anything
you really are an idiot if you think they "prove " something). The only
prove your ability to regurgitate info that you supposedly learned.
Having
the know how, and knowing how to use are two different things. Lets say
your
8 years old and I give you a bunch of craftsman tools, does that mean
you
know how to work on a car if someone said fix it? probably not. And
there's
my point. You have the tools, but do you really know how to use them,
most
newbys don't, although they have a clue ( or at least some do) they are
unsure. If you truly are experienced in every sense of the word, yes I
believe that alone, can prove your qualification. I'll take a guy with
"experience" anyday over someone who is certified and little experience.
Your the victim??? Of what ?? I didn't do it, nobody did anything to
you,
you make your own desicions, live with them. You must be a newbie cause
you
certainly can't handle responsibility if your a "victim".
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