Louie that would be somthing, and as far as I know, nobody's done that.
Hmmm....
But i understand what your saying. What I do want to emphasize is that in
building a car is kind of a big deal, but not fixing a small part of the car
when your told by someone else what is wrong with it. While people here are
talking about CCNA like its some of major accomplishment.
CCIE=accomplishment. CCNA=not really worth the paper its printed on at this
point. CCNA is a small piece of the puzzle. Come on people this isn't the
whole enchilada!!! NEWSFLASH!!!!
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> If I gave you all of the manuals and engineering specs on a car and told
you
> to study them and then tested you on every detail in those books and you
> were able to pass the test would that prove anything?
>
> If I then gave you all of the tools and all of the parts to a car and
said
> "build it" and you successfully built it, and I then sent you away and I
> broke the car (in several ways) and told you to come back and fix it and
you
> were able to fix it would this prove anything?
>
> Obviously it would prove a lot. This is what the CCIE certfication is
like.
> You must study all of the networking manuals and know every detail and
pass
> a difficult exam to prove your knowledge. Then you are given all of the
> tools and equipment you need and you must build an extremely complex
routing
> and switching network in a very short amount of time using very limiting
> rules. If you succesfully complete the task, you then get to leave while
> someone "breaks your network in any untold number of ways" you are then
> told to fix it once again in a very limited time frame.
>
> If you can accomplish this, then you become a CCIE. I think the CCIE
> certification proves a lot. It proves you have the knowledge, the ability
> and the troubleshooting skills. It also shows you can work under pressure
to
> accomplish a goal in a limited time.
>
> But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong <grin>
>
> Louie Belt
> CCIE #7054
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The.Rock
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 3/19/01 11:32 AM
> Subject: Re: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Reply to The Rock
>
> oh yeah one more thing...In case you forgot, certs don't prove anything
> you really are an idiot if you think they "prove " something). The only
> prove your ability to regurgitate info that you supposedly learned.
> Having
> the know how, and knowing how to use are two different things. Lets say
> your
> 8 years old and I give you a bunch of craftsman tools, does that mean
> you
> know how to work on a car if someone said fix it? probably not. And
> there's
> my point. You have the tools, but do you really know how to use them,
> most
> newbys don't, although they have a clue ( or at least some do) they are
> unsure. If you truly are experienced in every sense of the word, yes I
> believe that alone, can prove your qualification. I'll take a guy with
> "experience" anyday over someone who is certified and little experience.
> Your the victim??? Of what ?? I didn't do it, nobody did anything to
> you,
> you make your own desicions, live with them. You must be a newbie cause
> you
> certainly can't handle responsibility if your a "victim".
>
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