Here's my thoughts * Yes, I know several CCIE's who are having trouble finding work. And yes, I know one guy who has 2 CCIE's (R/S and ISPDial) who is having trouble finding work. For those of you who think it might be due to lack of experience, the guys I am talking about have at least 5 years of experience, and the dual-guy has more than 10, including more than 5 at Cisco as an SE.
* My understanding is that the one-day lab is significantly harder than the older 2-day lab. But of course, this might be compensated for by the fact that the wait list will be shorter (eventually). * I don't know that Cisco has too many CCIE tracks. Right now there are 3 active tracks. This is like the old days of the program, when they also used to have 3 (R/S, ISP-Dial, WAN) [Note, Ok, in the really old days, I know there used to be only the R/S]. But I remember at one point last year or so, there were actually 5 active tracks (R/S, ISP-Dial, WAN, Design, SNA/IP). Now that really was too many tracks. * You're right, why bother (esp. with the R/S)? Sorry guys, I know this sounds harsh, and I know that I'm going to get flamed for this, but if I had to do it all over again, I don't know that I would try to get the R/S. Now by that, let me be clear. There is nothing wrong with learning the R/S material. That is always good. Everybody should learn the material that the R/S guy knows. But as far as doing actual test prep - getting my typing and configuration speed up so that I can set up BGP and OSPF in 10 minutes, actually paying for the test and travelling to the test site, I don't know that I would put myself through that again unless it was worth it. Let's face it. This isn't 1998-1999 anymore. Who knows when, or even if, things will get better? Particularly when there is probably a much more valuable cert program out there. Which is why I am moving on to ... * Juniper. I don't think the same market forces hold for Juniper, at least not to the same degree. The Juniper market is much less saturated than the Cisco market. Consider this - there are about 6650 CCIE's out there, of which probably about 6400 are R/S'ers. Right now there are 20 JNCIE's. So despite the fact that the demand for Juniper skills is smaller, I have a very difficult time believing it is 320 times smaller. You can check out my old post (7:3485, posted 10/1/01, on Re:Is the CCIE really worth it), where I discuss this subject at length. ""Chuck Larrieu"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > for those who've never seen one in their adult working lives, yeah, this is > a serious downturn, and yeah, the economy is bad right now. Don't worry - > skilled people can always find work. there are going to be a lot of > structural changes over the next few years. Keep your skills up. Keep a good > attitude. Keep reading, and practicing and thinking. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 3:30 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: is it really bad market for ccie ? [7:24297] > > > some one (lots of them ) said it's really hard to find job in networking > even for ccie or dual ccie ,is it really true people ? > the 1 day lab is really getting harder (much harder than the 2 day) and > cisco has to many ccie track now ,why bother getting ccie security or com > when one can not get a job, ccie of ...hope maybe > same thing for juniper i guess > 2 months ago i really looking forward to my lab but now i'm having second > though . > just my 2 cent Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=24309&t=24297 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
