Jenny I assume you are talking about Juniper. I really don't know anything 
about their cert. The company I know pretty well. I would not want to be 
looking for a job in this market place with only Juniper experience. Juniper 
will not go away for sure, but they will be at the tail end of the recovery 
at best.


>From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 
>Reply-To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: How do I approach the company about my CCIE [7:40261]
>Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 19:15:12 -0400
>
>"A CCIE is still the highest networking cert and the only one that is not a
>
>paper cert. "
>
>I'll save nrf the trouble of saying this.
>Highest networking cert?  Arguable.  Depends how you define "highest". But
>it's certainly not a totally unreasonable claim.  Only one that is not a
>paper cert?  Hardly.  Try doing a little more research.
>However, if you substitute "Cisco" for "networking" in your original
>sentence, it looks far more accurate.
>
>Cisco is not the only player, or even the only significant player, in the
>networking game.
>
>JMcL
>
>
>----- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 28/05/2002 08:39 am -----
>
>
>"Wes Stevens"
>Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>27/05/2002 11:40 pm
>Please respond to "Wes Stevens"
>
>
>         To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>         cc:
>         Subject:        Re: How do I approach the company about my CCIE
>[7:40261]
>Is this part of a business decision process?:
>
>
>If you look at Cisco over the last 18 months compared to it's competitors
>it
>has done well. It's sales have dropped much less then most other
>networking
>companies and they have actually gained market share in all major areas.
>The
>major telco's built out way too fast and the growth did not come like they
>
>expected. But on the enterprise side companies took it a lot slower. This
>economy is starting a slow recovery. Next year things will pick up. It
>will
>never be like 1999 as you say, but we will get back to the point where
>there
>will be plenty of jobs.
>
>A CCIE is still the highest networking cert and the only one that is not a
>
>paper cert. We have seen a lot more numbers comming out these days, but
>Cisco doubled the number of lab seats in San Jose and RTP back in March.
>Add
>to that the one day lab and Sat and Sun testing and there are a lot more
>people taking the test. Cisco keeps track of the passing percent and will
>adjust the challenge of the lab if necessary. The other thing is we
>probably
>will see major changes in the lab before the end of the year. When they
>get
>rid of token ring who knows what goodies they will replace it with. It
>will
>take a while for the boot camps to adjust their programs to the new topics
>
>and the candidates that take the self study route will be searching for
>ways
>to cover the new material. There will be a big slow down for a while at
>that
>point.
>
>
>I guess my point is I do not see the value of the CCIE going the way of
>the
>microsoft certs. Thing will get better next year and the demand for CCIE's
>
>will raise.
>
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>
>
>
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