What leads you to believe that they "will be at the tail end of the
recovery?"

At 09:04 PM 5/27/2002 -0400, Wes Stevens wrote:
>Jenny I assume you are talking about Juniper. I really don't know anything
>about their cert. The company I know pretty well. I would not want to be
>looking for a job in this market place with only Juniper experience. Juniper
>will not go away for sure, but they will be at the tail end of the recovery
>at best.
>
>
> >From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
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> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: How do I approach the company about my CCIE [7:40261]
> >Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 19:15:12 -0400
> >
> >"A CCIE is still the highest networking cert and the only one that is not
a
> >
> >paper cert. "
> >
> >I'll save nrf the trouble of saying this.
> >Highest networking cert?  Arguable.  Depends how you define "highest". But
> >it's certainly not a totally unreasonable claim.  Only one that is not a
> >paper cert?  Hardly.  Try doing a little more research.
> >However, if you substitute "Cisco" for "networking" in your original
> >sentence, it looks far more accurate.
> >
> >Cisco is not the only player, or even the only significant player, in the
> >networking game.
> >
> >JMcL
> >
> >
> >----- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 28/05/2002 08:39 am -----
> >
> >
> >"Wes Stevens"
> >Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >27/05/2002 11:40 pm
> >Please respond to "Wes Stevens"
> >
> >
> >         To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >         cc:
> >         Subject:        Re: How do I approach the company about my CCIE
> >[7:40261]
> >Is this part of a business decision process?:
> >
> >
> >If you look at Cisco over the last 18 months compared to it's competitors
> >it
> >has done well. It's sales have dropped much less then most other
> >networking
> >companies and they have actually gained market share in all major areas.
> >The
> >major telco's built out way too fast and the growth did not come like they
> >
> >expected. But on the enterprise side companies took it a lot slower. This
> >economy is starting a slow recovery. Next year things will pick up. It
> >will
> >never be like 1999 as you say, but we will get back to the point where
> >there
> >will be plenty of jobs.
> >
> >A CCIE is still the highest networking cert and the only one that is not a
> >
> >paper cert. We have seen a lot more numbers comming out these days, but
> >Cisco doubled the number of lab seats in San Jose and RTP back in March.
> >Add
> >to that the one day lab and Sat and Sun testing and there are a lot more
> >people taking the test. Cisco keeps track of the passing percent and will
> >adjust the challenge of the lab if necessary. The other thing is we
> >probably
> >will see major changes in the lab before the end of the year. When they
> >get
> >rid of token ring who knows what goodies they will replace it with. It
> >will
> >take a while for the boot camps to adjust their programs to the new topics
> >
> >and the candidates that take the self study route will be searching for
> >ways
> >to cover the new material. There will be a big slow down for a while at
> >that
> >point.
> >
> >
> >I guess my point is I do not see the value of the CCIE going the way of
> >the
> >microsoft certs. Thing will get better next year and the demand for CCIE's
> >
> >will raise.
> >
> >[snipped]
> >
> >
> >
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