I've heard that the JNCIE (Juniper) cert is unbelievably difficult.  I've
also heard it said that both their written and lab exams are considerably
more difficult than the CCIE.  This may no longer be true once Cisco rolls
out the final version of the new written exam, though.  It looks like a
bear!

John

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Subject: Re: How do I approach the company about my CCIE [7:40261]


> "A CCIE is still the highest networking cert and the only one that is not
a
>
> paper cert. "
>
> I'll save nrf the trouble of saying this.
> Highest networking cert?  Arguable.  Depends how you define "highest". But
> it's certainly not a totally unreasonable claim.  Only one that is not a
> paper cert?  Hardly.  Try doing a little more research.
> However, if you substitute "Cisco" for "networking" in your original
> sentence, it looks far more accurate.
>
> Cisco is not the only player, or even the only significant player, in the
> networking game.
>
> JMcL
>
>
> ----- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 28/05/2002 08:39 am -----
>
>
> "Wes Stevens"
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> 27/05/2002 11:40 pm
> Please respond to "Wes Stevens"
>
>
>         To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>         cc:
>         Subject:        Re: How do I approach the company about my CCIE
> [7:40261]
> Is this part of a business decision process?:
>
>
> If you look at Cisco over the last 18 months compared to it's competitors
> it
> has done well. It's sales have dropped much less then most other
> networking
> companies and they have actually gained market share in all major areas.
> The
> major telco's built out way too fast and the growth did not come like they
>
> expected. But on the enterprise side companies took it a lot slower. This
> economy is starting a slow recovery. Next year things will pick up. It
> will
> never be like 1999 as you say, but we will get back to the point where
> there
> will be plenty of jobs.
>
> A CCIE is still the highest networking cert and the only one that is not a
>
> paper cert. We have seen a lot more numbers comming out these days, but
> Cisco doubled the number of lab seats in San Jose and RTP back in March.
> Add
> to that the one day lab and Sat and Sun testing and there are a lot more
> people taking the test. Cisco keeps track of the passing percent and will
> adjust the challenge of the lab if necessary. The other thing is we
> probably
> will see major changes in the lab before the end of the year. When they
> get
> rid of token ring who knows what goodies they will replace it with. It
> will
> take a while for the boot camps to adjust their programs to the new topics
>
> and the candidates that take the self study route will be searching for
> ways
> to cover the new material. There will be a big slow down for a while at
> that
> point.
>
>
> I guess my point is I do not see the value of the CCIE going the way of
> the
> microsoft certs. Thing will get better next year and the demand for CCIE's
>
> will raise.
>
> [snipped]
>
>
>
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