""Gaz""  wrote in message
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> I think that depends on the individual company.
> Our company currently has 6 CCIE's. I was dissuaded from going for CCIE by
> my company. The reason, although they haven't stated it in so many words
is
> that they would just about double my pay from CCNP, but I would bring them
> very little more income.
> They would prefer me to go off and do something else that they can charge
> for, like security.
> I've not heard of any companies asking for CCIE security (yet). A senior
> engineer with security accreditations is almost as sellable to most
> companies and far cheaper to feed and water.
> For a lot of jobs, the same is true for Routing/Switching. Every job our
> company sends a CCIE to that could have been a Senior Engineer, they've
lost
> a bit off their profit margin, and in the current climate where perhaps
the
> jobs aren't rolling in quite so fast, there are obviously greater losses
> having CCIE's sat around on quiet days.
> CCIE is still the target I believe, but not everybody needs them at the
> moment.
> In 6/12 months if things pick up they may be pushing the CCIE again.
> I believe that Cisco's hiccup last year is the only thing that has
devalued
> the CCIE. As Cisco gradually recovers, so will the CCIE....probably.....

Well, I think that's true.  But on the other hand, I think the glory days of
the CCIE are over.

Let's face it.  We just went through a massive network buildout orgy that
will probably never be repeated again in out lifetime.  Several positive
factors went "just right" - the Y2K overhaul, the advent of Netscape and the
accompanying introduction of the Internet to the masses, and the fears of
old-school companies of getting 'Amazon-ed'.   To think that these kinds of
factors will come together again anytime soon is wishful thinking.

So while yes, I agree that Cisco and the CCIE will probably get better, if
you think we're going to have 1999 all over again, you're just deluding
yourself.  The world has changed,  and people will simply have to admit that
when it comes to the value of tech skills, Cisco's best days are in its
past, and people should be looking at other skills if they want to remain on
the forefront of what is considered valuable.

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> Gaz
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> ""Kris Keen""  wrote in message
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> > Your the 1st person I've heard say the CCIE isnt worth much anymore..




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