Hi, Patricia,
I did NOT mean to re-start this thread here, as Kim has asked that we
not discuss it. I made a mistake in posting to this list instead of to
the DogRead list where we are discussing this with the author of a book
on our breed. Sorry, but I can't respond here. I hope you understand.
Suze
Patricia Powers wrote:
>
> Suze,
> I appreciate what you had to share about the split gene pool and
> unfortunately, the saddest truth is the lack of forgiveness of the original
> founders of American Cavalier King Charles Spaniel Club. For whatever the
> reason, the old club and american club don't seem to be willing to act in
> the best interest of our beloved cavalier. I don't care that they did not
> meet the criteria for continuing membership according to a old club ruling,
> particularly since the old club made the mistake not to be the akc parent
> club. But it is done, it is history.We must move on for the sake of our
> breed. We can't have resentments and be spiritual fit to make positive
> changes that benefit the dogs and its members. It makes me sad that we can't
> work together to use the heart clear lines that can truly make a difference
> in the health and well being of the cavalier king charles spaniel and those
> that choose this breed to share their heart and home. Unfortunately, you
> can't legislate emotional maturity.Worst of all, knowing that change is
> necessary (and we do) and refusing to take the steps that lead to change
> results in frustration which results in additional stress that comes from
> frustration. I think every akc registered cavalier that wants to register
> with the old club should have that option. It is the personal responsibility
> of each companion or breeder to screen each potential purchase or stud usage
> based on the knowledge we have about improving the health of this breed.
> Everyone would benefit by having more choices among longer living cavalier
> lines. If people can put aside their differences and look at the opportunity
> we have to make a difference in the cavalier king charles spaniel then we
> can take pride in knowing we did the best we could to be a part of the
> solution not the problem. Just my humble opinion.
>
> Patricia Powers Pratt Cavaliers
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Susan A. Schlenger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] Splitting the gene pool
>
> >Sorry, List,
> > This post was meant for another all breed list which is discussing
> this
> >problem. I apologize to Kim and others for this mistake.
> >
> >Suze
> >
> >"Susan A. Schlenger" wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello, Caroline,
> >> Actually, in Cavaliers it is worse than that. After the stud
> book was
> >> opened by AKC and simultaneously closed and after all the rhetoric about
> >> AKC and what it would do to the breed, only very, very few people did
> >> NOT register their dogs AKC; but the CKCSC USA made it a Code of Ethics
> >> violation to breed to AKC-only registered dogs (as opposed to dual
> >> registered dogs or CKCSC, USA only). All this was a bit annoying and
> >> irritating (and from my stance as a lawyer fairly unenforeceable as a
> >> restraint on alienation) but still theoretical; until recently. Those
> >> "dirty dozen" breeders (excoriated by CKCSC USA for leaving the CKCSC to
> >> form the AKC parent club) have some wonderful dogs who have now gotten
> >> underused and are getting infertile. What is worse is that there are
> >> lines underused which have longevity and less history of MVD; which, I
> >> am sure you know, plagues our breed. (GREAT book you wrote on Cavaliers
> >> I thought). And, almost worse, those breeders who had the courage to
> >> leave to become the parent club (and I'm speaking as an "old club"
> >> member!) got so poor treatment for their concern and effort that to this
> >> day some are almost ill from it.
> >> I, for one, consider this so serious that although I am a member
> of
> >> both clubs, have made up four AKC champions and have one halfway to
> >> CKCSC USA champion with a major win, that I am considering leaving the
> >> "old club". It is a serious shame on us that this happened as both
> >> clubs have much to offer the breed; and this is NOT and has never been
> >> about the dogs, but about the people. "Protecting the breed"
> >> from........what? Puppymills? CKCSC, USA will register ANY Cavalier in
> >> the world (including from Irish puppymills) without provenance, and yet
> >> they refuse to register AKC dogs. This is still so heated an issue that
> >> it cannot be discussed between good friends. The red herring of "breed
> >> protection" really burns my tail as if one reads Elizabeth Spalding's
> >> book on Cavaliers (written in the early years of their importation to
> >> the U.S.) she states that they are recording registration against the
> >> hopes of AKC acceptance. No........things like this are not about the
> >> dogs..........
> >>
> >> Sorry to go on, but this is a serious problem in our breed. No matter
> >> which way one turns in terms of clubs, one has a terribly split gene
> >> pool in a breed that desparately needs the diversity.
> >>
> >> Suze
> >>
> >> > A similar situation exists in Cavaliers and in
> >> > Jack Russells after a great proportion of breeders refused to register
> their
> >> > dogs with AKC and chose to stay with earlier breed clubs. When they
> made
> >> > that choice they thought they were safeguarding the breed by not
> helping it
> >> > become a popular showdog, but in the long run they have simply split
> the
> >> > breed.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Suze at Llawen Cavaliers
> >> "...I have seen that in any great undertaking it is not enough for a man
> >> to depend simply upon himself." -Isna Ia-wica
> >> "Thought comes before speech" Luther Standing Bear
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