Michael, my feeling has always been that we are all in the same hobby. We all share a love for the dogs. I don't understand why we can't be open about health testing on our dogs. I don't understand why so many of my friends in the breed criticized me when I told people that we had produced two pups in the same litter with luxating patellas....even though both parents were clear. I didn't understand why my friends told me that I had made a big mistake by saying that we had produced a puppy with an undescended testicle. I am doing the best that I can to breed healthy dogs, but when one of our puppies has a problem, my first instinct is to look to other breeders for support and maybe some helpful suggestions on how to avoid the problem in the future. I am discovering that I have been mistaken. We really aren't at all the same, and the general feeling out there seems to be to criticize one another for a variety of reasons. We should all be sharing information with each other and trying to support the breed by testing and sharing the good news as well as the bad. That isn't what is happening. Myra Savant
>From: "John P. Garrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel List ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] breeding dogs, not hearts >Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 17:29:35 -0800 > >Myra Savant > > > I've only been in cavaliers for about five years. In that time, I have >met > > and talked to a breeder who was knowingly breeding a boy who had been >unable > > to get hip certification, and another one who was breeding a four year >old > > girl with MVD. She was paying for stud service and not having >particular > > problems finding a dog to use either. I've talked to two breeders about > > using their boys and when pushed, they were unable to provide the hard >copy > > on heart clearance that they claimed they had. I know of a girl who >has a > > slipping patellae who has been bred to. I'm surprised that in the many > > years that you have been breeding, you haven't met people who either >don't > > test or just keep on breeding the dog once it fails the tests. They >sure > > are out there, and I have a hard time believing that I am the only >breeder > > in the US who has met them. If you think that everyone is concerned >about > > health issues, go to the OFA data base someday and start looking up >affixes. > > Myra Savant > >I believe you Myra, this same scenario is played all over the place. Two >more cents from a chastened non-Cavalier owner: what about those who have >OFA numbers on their stud dogs and don't do the bitches? We have currently >and have had in the past (several VERY prominant names in fact) that do >this. One concludes that they can attract more stud fees with the OFA but >don't have a problem breeding untested (or as you say, maybe tested and >failed) bitches? What folks do with their own dogs is their business I >feel, >as long as the dogs are happy and cared for BUT when they go to sell dogs >or >offer dogs at public stud I would like to see them display a little more >responsibility about the potential problems the new owners might encounter. >If we all pull together we can move a big load. Now I shall sink back into >my pile of ashes. Michael > >========================================================= >"Magic Commands": >to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL >to start it up gain click here: >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL > > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. >Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html > >All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 1999 by its original author. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ========================================================= "Magic Commands": to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL to start it up gain click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 1999 by its original author.
