Alida, Thank you for summarizing how I feel; you said it so well I have left it attached to my reply. It is worth reading at least a second time for those who read the original post and for those who missed it, here it is again! Let us not forget several months from now, we are all on the same side: to protect and improve the health of the breed; always acting in the best interest of our beloved cavalier. Patricia Powers Pratt Cavaliers -----Original Message----- From: Alida Margolin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Monday, December 10, 2001 6:22 PM Subject: [CKCS-L] International & Experience
>Kathy Yonkers's post said (snips): <"Testing is to gain knowledge"> <"but >it does not offer any guarantees or absolutes"> <"Even breeding >nonsymptomatic to nonsymptomatic (...) does increase the odds"> >(Kathy, I hope by snipping I haven't distorted your intent, but I don't >think I have, and the above still makes sense.) I don't think anyone >participating in this thread disagrees with this, even though some >list-members seem to be at others' throats. I haven't read anyone saying >that testing *guarantees* anything!!! As I've understood Laura, Anne, Myra >and others, genetics (and genetic testing) is about PROBABILITIES. All >probabilities are of limited use if one is looking only at one instance (one >litter, or one child, or one roll of the dice). The reason why >"probability" has become an accepted tool to use in medicine, mathematics, >and many other sciences is that the higher the numbers (of litters, or >children, or rolls of dice), the more the rules of *probability* kick in and >prove themselves. > As far as the concerns expressed re perceptions of "advertising testing," >well, in buyers (like any subset of the population, of which breeders are >another subset), there's a range... One would have to be grossly na�ve or >gravely ignorant to believe (PRIOR to a conversation with a responsible >breeder) that if a breeder publicly states s/he tests, the puppies are >"guaranteed" to be healthy. ( Some breeders state it prior to being asked, >some don't; I'm not talking about those who don't test at all.) I have >NEVER gotten the impression, from this list or from personal conversations, >that a breeder who publicly promotes the value of testing is doing so to >imply ANY sort of "guarantee," nor to denigrate the health-probabilities of >anyone else's puppies. Whether or not you publicize your testing policy, >it's part of YOUR job (each individual breeder) to clarify this to every >prospective buyer, in an educative, non-defensive and non-condescending way. >Parts of this thread have been informative. Much of it has been reminiscent >of the travesty in Afghanistan - as soon as the Taliban wasn't a threat, >members of the Northern Alliance started behaving just like the Taliban >toward whoever they decided deserved it. I would think that the love for >Cavaliers and devotion to the betterment of the breed would mean everyone >here is on the same "side," and that it wouldn't be necessary to start >attacking each other (even though that's a lot easier to do than attacking >MVD). > Alida > >========================================================= >"Magic Commands": >to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL >to start it up gain click here: >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL > > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. >Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html > >All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 1999 by its original author. > ========================================================= "Magic Commands": to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL to start it up gain click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 1999 by its original author.
