Sheila. We've had problems with housebreaking too.  What size crate are you
using?  Myra Savant


>From: Sheila Boneham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: [CKCS-L] The housetraining problem
>Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 16:56:06 EST
>
>OK, I'm out of the closet. I'm the one with the puppy having housebreaking
>problems, and rather than have Sandra run interference....here's the
>situation....
>
>First, I'm not a dog idiot. I breed Aussies, and have owned lots of puppies
>and dogs of several breeds as well as fostered MANY rescued Aussies, Labs,
>and a few others. I have had small dogs before, but this is my first
>Cavalier. I have NEVER had this much trouble with potty training.
>
>My expectations: I do not expect a 14 week old puppy to be trained, to hold
>it for long, etc. However, every approach to training I have read (and
>trust
>me, I've read a bunch in the past couple of weeks!) operates on the
>assumption that the puppy wants to be clean. This puppy doesn't seem to
>care.
>I know she was in clean surroundings before she came here, and she has
>every
>opportunity to be clean now. So I don't get it.
>
>I work at home, and the x-pen is right next to me in my office. Usually I'm
>here. The pup is out for play time and attention at least 10 minutes of
>every
>hour, and often lies on my lap while I'm working. If she's too lively for
>that, during work time she's in the x-pen, which is set up with her litter
>box at one end, and her bedding at the other. Litter box has a weewee pad.
>I
>replace the pad EVERY TIME it's used -- usually within minutes, otherwise
>as
>soon as I get home, and I'm never gone more than a couple hours. When she
>goes outside the litter box (which she does at least half the time, whether
>or not the pad is clean -- i.e. I've come home after being gone a short
>time,
>and found a clean pad and p&p all over the floor of the x-pen), I clean and
>deodorize the whole area as soon as I know.  When she goes on the floor, I
>clean and deodorize it. When she goes on her bedding, I remove and replace
>it, and launder it. If she's gotten herself dirty, I give her a bath.
>(we're
>talking 5-6 times a day) It's been suggested that she eats poop because she
>has access to it for too long a time. Nope, wrong, I've seen her pick one
>up
>as I'm moving FAST toward the pen, going AACCKKK and clapping my hands. She
>does not spend time in a dirty pen, other than as I said, if I have to be
>gone for a little while. Sometimes that's an hour or two, sometimes it's 20
>minutes while I take the big dogs for a run or clean up their yard.
>Sometimes
>when I get back her pen is a serious filthy mess because she sometimes
>tramps
>through the pee (and sometimes poop) and smears it all over.  I don't leave
>her crated because she will go in the crate, even if there only a short
>time,
>and I don't want her lying in it!
>
>She's neither overfed nor underfed. I did change her food, but not
>immediately when she arrived here, and I made the change slowly. Her stools
>are firm. I feed on a strict schedule, allow her 15 minutes to eat, then
>remove any leftover food. She's not getting treats because I'm trying to
>keep
>things as rigid as possible in terms of intake. I don't scold her for
>mistakes, and if I see her go in the litter box I praise her, cuddle her,
>and
>bring her out for play time.
>
>She sleeps in her crate beside my bed. When she asks out, I'm up and out to
>the litter box with her in a flash, but often she goes in the crate BEFORE
>she asks out. I'm a very light sleeper, so I'm sure she's not asking out
>first.
>
>I've had two fecals done to be sure she doesn't have any funny fauna or
>flora
>in her system, and she seems to be perfectly normal. I'm feeding her
>Innova,
>which is free of all the common allergens (which isn't to say she couldn't
>have a problem with something in there but it doesn't seem likely).
>
>I'd prefer to train her to go out, but it's very cold here now (18 F at the
>moment, windchill -6), especially at night, and even with her oh-so-stylish
>polar fleece jacket, she'd freeze her fanny outside.
>
>So, I think I've covered all the issues that were raised. I'm still
>stumped.
>Every time I think she's improving, she surprises me with a major setback.
>I
>have to tell you, as a breeder, rescuer, obedience instructor, and writer,
>this experience is making me adjust my attitude about people who have
>housebreaking problems! The conventional wisdom doesn't always apply and
>doesn't always work. So, any more ideas?
>
>Sheila Boneham
>Perennial Australian Shepherds & One Cavalier!
>Bloomington, Indiana
>www.perennialaussies.com
>
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