Susan With all the spay and neuter contracts you have in the US I am fairly sure that there are an awful lot of bitches in particular with thick woolly coats. I have only one spayed bitch here and never again! VBG She did not have an excessive amount of coat pre spaying now the only way to keep her clean and comfortable is to clip her out
Annette ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Cochran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 2:02 AM Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] Pro's > Well, it is right there in the newsletter. You can read the article for > yourself if you are an ACKCSC member. John didn't write it, but another > board member did. Frankly, if a Cavalier has so much coat that it needs a > Cocker trim when used as a pet, then it has too much coat, period. > > All the best, > Susan Cochran > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cavatibs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 5:52 PM > Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] Pro's > > > > You can't be serious!! When you read John Gammon's articles in the AKC > Gazette > > he rightly condemns sculpting and trimming - is he the only one who really > > believes what he is saying? > > Anne > > > > Susan Cochran wrote: > > > > > Well, in the recent ACKCSC newsletter one of the directors wrote an > article > > > on how to give a "pet trim" to a Cavalier. That being the case, how far > > > would complaining to the club go??? > > > > > > All the best, > > > Susan Cochran > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Susan Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 1:39 PM > > > Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] Pro's > > > > > > > Hi list, > > > > Reading this thread reminds me of the issues the Boxer world has had > with > > > > judges not putting up "plain", meaning black-masked, dogs. Judges > have > > > > automatically assumed that any dog that had little or no white > markings on > > > > the face, chest and/or legs was a "pet" and not to be considered for > > > > placement. As a result, "show" breeders sold their plain dogs to pet > > > homes, > > > > some of which were the best dogs in the litter. It wasn't worth > trying to > > > > win with a plain - one couldn't. However, a superior quality plain, > > > handled > > > > by a top handler could occasionally win - I had such a dog over 10 > years > > > ago > > > > that finished in 12 shows. > > > > > > > > Thanks to the internet and lists such as this one, this controversial > > > issue > > > > became a big topic. As a result, last year the American Boxer Club's > > > board > > > > of directors issued a position letter to all licensed and provisional > > > judges > > > > reminding them that according to the standard, the black mask is > essential > > > > and "may" be replaced in part by white and that the only requirement > for > > > > white markings is that they do not exceed 1/3 ground color. In > addition, > > > > speakers(includinging myself) at judges seminars across the country > have > > > and > > > > are emphasizing this point. As a result, plain boxers are appearing > in > > > show > > > > rings in increasing numbers and are finishing their championships, > some > > > > shown by owner-handlers. > > > > > > > > May I suggest that the CKCS Parent Club look into this issue and > seriously > > > > consider issuing a position letter to all Cavalier licensed and > > > provisional > > > > judges that according to the standard trimming is not allowed and that > the > > > > breed should not be hand stacked on the ground but rather free baited. > > > The > > > > letter could go on to say that 1) judges should either request that > > > handlers > > > > "on the ground" should stand up or not consider their dogs for > placement, > > > > and 2) that trimming (except for the bottoms of the feet) should be > > > > considered such a serious fault as to effectively remove the dog from > > > > serious consideration, or words to that effect. > > > > > > > > What do you all think? > > > > > > > > Susan Jackson > > > > Reward's Boxers & Cavalier > > > > Sylmar, CA > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > http://sujac.home.mindspring.com > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > > > > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > > > > > > ========================================================= > > > > "Magic Commands": > > > > to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: > > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL > > > > to start it up gain click here: > > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL > > > > > > > > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. > > > > Search the Archives... > http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html > > > > > > > > All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original > author. > > > > > > ========================================================= > > > "Magic Commands": > > > to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL > > > to start it up gain click here: > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL > > > > > > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. > > > Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html > > > > > > All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author. > > > > ========================================================= > > "Magic Commands": > > to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL > > to start it up gain click here: > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL > > > > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. > > Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html > > > > All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author. > > ========================================================= > "Magic Commands": > to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL > to start it up gain click here: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL > > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. > Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html > > All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author. ========================================================= "Magic Commands": to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL to start it up gain click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. 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