I wish it were so clear cut here in the states, Jeanie. However, things are different here. Maybe it's a general lack of ethics, maybe just that people are driven to win. However, I've heard of gay tails being fixed and shortened, mouths being banded, markings being bleached. It shouldn't be happening, but it is happening. Everywhere you look, people are cheating to get what they want. We don't, but sometimes after watching bleached, blued and dyed dogs winning when my dogs don't, I wonder why we bother to show at all. Myra Savant
>From: JEANIE MONTFORD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel List ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] Chat: Bites >Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 08:53:52 +1100 > >Flo writes ><<<I had a dog with four teeth >out of scissor who did nothing until I managed to correct it using Heath >Robinson type methods.>>>> ><<<I took him out of competition for 3 months while I worked on his >mouth.>>>>>> >I find these revelations astonishing - not funny but a real cause for >concern. There are 2 issues here - firstly the fact that you have altered >a >dogs mouth by artificial means, "Heath Robinson type methods" whatever >they >are. This is directly against the rules and regulations certainly in >England >and in fact, in almost every country. The only instance of the KC in UK >allowing "altered" dogs to be shown is if the owner seeks permission to >show >after castrating or spaying. Some years ago a Leonburger which had a tiny >umbilical hernia stitched as a puppy was banned from being shown for life. >The correctness or otherwise of a dogs "bite" is rightly an important part >of a judges consideration in deciding on the relative merits of the dogs in >front of them and on their decision in what order they will place those >dogs. To artificially change a dogs bite is to "cheat" - the dog you are >presenting to the judge is not displaying his true genetic makeup so >judgments on him will be done on the basis of false information. > If you had waited and given the bite time, it may very well have come >right >of its own accord - that is its genetic makeup will eventually be >expressed. >But if it had been left alone and never came right, then it is carrying >the >genes for this. By tampering with the mouth, you will never know the true >genetic makeup of this dog. He will always be a "wildcard" in the pedigree >of his offspring. You may not have got bad bites in the first generation, >but you should have considered future generations. ><<<<< After getting the mouth right he became a fairly popular stud, >fathering not only progeny >for my own programme, but also other show people. >>>>> >Secondly it would be interesting to know if the people who used your dog at >stud were aware that he originally had a bad bite and that you had altered >it?? If they knew and were taking that into consideration when they used >the >dog, that is fine - I have used dogs with less than perfect bites myself, > not altered bites.) But if they were unaware that the bite had been >changed by artificial means, then they were using the dog under false >pretences and quite aside from the moral implications, if you took money >for stud fees you should look to your conscience. > ><<<<<Considering that I bred for compact dogs with small heads I >think I did the right thing, although I am not sure that the British KC >would >agree if they knew.>>>>> >Firstly why breed for small heads? The head should be in balance with the >body. I am certain that the KC would not approve. That being the case, I >am astounded that you would put onto a public list the fact that you have >altered a dog. >Jeanie Montford >Elvenhome Cavaliers >Sydney, Australia >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >========================================================= >"Magic Commands": >to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL >to start it up gain click here: >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL > > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. >Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html > >All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author. Myra Savant Gardengate Cavaliers _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ========================================================= "Magic Commands": to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL to start it up gain click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author.
