Cathy reminded me of our Amy's first major.  She was still just a puppy with
little puppy ears and we were wondering why she had won Best of
Winner's.....until the judge said...with tears in her eyes...."She reminds
me of my very first cavalier.   Lovely girl."  Then we knew that this was
sort of a sentimental win.  Amy went on to become a championship with some
nice major wins, but we never did forget the judge's comments.  Myra


>From: "Cathy J. Gish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] Is it proper to ask judge to explain placement
>Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 10:36:10 -0600
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>Glen I would not say that it is improper. However, it depends on how it is
>asked. You don't want to ask a negative question such as what is wrong with
>my dog as then you may get all negatives and no positives. Also you put the
>judge in a position to find something wrong with the dog when it may very
>simply be the handler who won and not the dog. Also the judge may very well
>like your dog but the other one who beat you had a little more ring
>presents
>or I have even seen inferior dogs win under breeder judges because it
>reminded them of the old champion they had 30 years ago. So with tears in
>their eyes and a warm fuzzy in their hearts they gave the win to that one.
>
>In the end it really does not matter what the judge thought of your dog it
>only matters that at the end of the day the dog still goes home with you
>happy and content that he is a champion  in your heart. Besides that was
>just one persons opinion on that one particular day.  I have seen dogs go
>Best in Show one day and look great and look like minced meat the next day.
>Maybe because he did not get a good nights sleep after the Best in Show
>party the owners had. Who knows. I never ask a judge what they did not like
>about my dog when I show because after awhile you have to get the attitude
>(and this is going to sound arrogant) if the dog wins then that was a good
>judge if the dog loses then what the hell does that judge know about
>cavaliers anyway. I was actually asked by a judge after he put up another
>dog over mine how he did..... My reply was. " As much as I wanted my dog to
>win .... if I had been judging today I would have done the same thing that
>you did." He was pleased with my answer and it was the truth I LOVED the
>dog
>he put over mine and would have taken it home in a red hot min.
>
>Glen don't ask the judge ask someone you trust ringside if there is
>anyone.... what you might have done different to improve your chances or
>what did the winner have that your dog did not. Or if you want to talk to
>the judge about it just ask what areas the judge feels you need to improve
>on. Sometimes it really is the handling of the dog and not the dog.
>
>Good Luck
>Cathy
>
>Glenn Fulton wrote:
>
> > Is it proper to ask a judge to explain why he placed your dog the way he
> > did or to ask the judge his opinion of your dog?
> >
> > Glenn Fulton
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