Wow.  I had no idea that people here in the states have strings attached for
pets too.  Good grief.  I wonder what that's all about.  Myra


>From: Annette Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel List
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>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] Restriction lifted
>Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 22:10:04 +0100
>
>Myra
>I wasn't particularly thinking of show stock when I mad that comment. I
>like
>many others in the UK get telephone calls and emails every week from people
>in the US looking for a Cavalier as a pet (I know the same happens in the
>US). Time and time again they say they just want a pet - they don't want to
>be tied up in co-owns, they don't want to show to an AKC championship, they
>don't want to breed and lastly they don't want to pay 2-3000 dollars plus
>all the aforementioned restrictions
>As for the restrictions that you say that you agreed to - that is between
>you and the people you purchased off and I won't comment on that in a
>public
>forum.
>
>Annette
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Myra Savant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 7:08 PM
>Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] Restriction lifted
>
>
> > We only own one dog that we purchased here in the states.  We didn't buy
> > from breeders in the UK because there were no strings attached and we
>could
> > do with them as we will.    We bought in the UK because we preferred
>dealing
> > with the English breeders, felt that they were much more willing to
>mentor
> > us, wanted the English dogs that we admired up close in the pedigree
>instead
> > of several generations removed and yes.....we felt that on the whole we
>were
> > getting a better dog.  I don't know where you get the idea that there
>aren't
> > any strings attached anyhow.  When we bought our Peakdowns dog, it was
>with
> > the understanding that we would feed him a diet that was approved by
>Brenda
> > Turnbull and that we would not breed him too young.  When we bought our
> > girls from Debbie Nobes, it was with the understanding that when it came
> > time to breed them, we would consult with her about which pedigrees and
>dogs
> > here would meet her approval.  We sent her the CKCSC yearbooks so that
>she
> > could look through them and make suggestions.  When we bought our
>Delhaze
> > Super Trooper, we certainly understood that Hazel and Eddie expected us
>to
> > finish him in the US and in Canada.  We did that.  Just because there is
>an
> > ocean between us doesn't mean that the breeders who have sold us dogs
>don't
> > have expectations nor that we don't do our level best to do well by the
> > breeders as well as the dogs.  Myra
> >
> >
> > >From: Annette Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel List
> > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] Restriction lifted
> > >Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 18:21:19 +0100
> > >
> > >I think they buy here because there are no strings attached - purchased
>out
> > >right - to do with them what they will.
> > >
> > >Annette
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Cathy J. Gish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 3:40 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] Restriction lifted
> > >
> > >
> > > > OH Gee Norma I was not speaking of your integrity what so ever. Nor
>of
> > >the
> > > > judges. It was making  a joke after all every knows all the english
>dogs
> > >are far
> > > > superior to the American dog I mean isn't that why all the American
>go
> > >over
> > > > there to buy dogs instead of buying them here? So how could an
>American
> > >dog
> > > > possibly win in that scenario. And no I was not saying the judges
>would
> > >be
> > > > thinking that as they were judging. I think of nothing but the dogs
>in
> > >front of
> > > > me when I am in the ring. There is no time to ponder what if's when
>you
> > >are
> > > > judging.
> > > >
> > > > When I judge I only see the dog and haven't a clue who is showing it
>or
> > >who owns
> > > > it or who bred it nor do I care. I pick the dog as many judges do.
>So
> > >lighten up
> > > > it was suppose to be an interesting topic not annoying. I mean come
>one
> > >what fun
> > > > it would be to win Crufts but I have not seen anything in the states
> > >lately that
> > > > would beat the lovely dogs I saw this year at Crufts. I think you
>guys
> > >are
> > >doing
> > > > a wonderful job with your breeding programs over there. Sorry what I
> > >said
> > > > sounded different than what I mean I will try to do better next
>time.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Cathy
> > > >
> > > > norma inglis wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Cathy J. Gish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >
> > > > >  I just can't imagine an English
> > > > >  Breeder judge give BOB at Crufts or the Club to an American bred
>dog.
> > >I
> > > > > mean
> > > > >  really how would it look. And again no insults intended.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cathy. Oh ye of little faith!  I can quite easily imagine the
> > >scenario,
> > >and
> > > > > am surprised that you have this sinical outlook. Do you have so
>little
> > >faith
> > > > > in the British judges that you think we would consider "how it
>would
> > >look"
> > > > > rather than judge the merit of the dogs appearing before us? I
>don't
> > >think
> > > > > that would be a factor for the British judges that I have any
>respect
> > >for.
> > > > > Would it be a factor for you as a judge?
> > > > >
> > > > > Not insulted but you could say irritated at the ??? over our
> > >integrity.
> > > > >
> > > > > Norma (Craigowl) UK
> > > > >
> > > > > (note I said British, as not all of us living in the UK are
>English!
>I
> > >can
> > > > > understand our Canadian cousins being upset getting called
>Americans
> > >just
> > > > > because they sound similar and live in North America.).
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