Phyllis,
How would you find out if they did breed the dog or bitch?
Cathy

Phyllis Lasser wrote:

> In a message dated 6/2/02 2:33:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> > > I tell them I prefer my dogs
> > > (even pets) not be spayed and neutered but if they are sure, after hearing
> > > all the facts, that they want to do so it is their dog and their decision.
> > > However, I require that they wait til the dog is at leasts a year old (and
> > > prefer 2.)
> >
> > Phyllis,
> > I am curious to learn what the advantage is to the dog to delay neutering
> > until
> > the age of 2? Is it a health advantage?
> >
>
> Hi Barb,
> I have been talking about this for several years and don't want to bore
> everyone with repeating myself, but I will try to summarize.....
> Many years ago another breeder mentioned he did not want his pet puppies to
> be spayed or neutered.  He mentioned he had been to a seminar in England and
> believed what he learned there....that it was not in their best health
> interest to have it done.  I spent a great deal of time researching and
> speaking to breeders and vets (with no vested interest) and I am convinced
> that we have been brainwashed in this country by the "vet union"....the same
> one that warns you how irresponsible you are if you don't give yearly
> vaccinations.  It goes like this....If a vet makes $100,000 a year on yearly
> vaccinations and he tells you need to have it done every 3 years, his income
> is now $33,000.  If he makes $50,000 a year on spaying and neutering puppies
> that goes down to $0.  It is illegal to spay and neuter in Sweden.  It is
> uncommon in much of Europe. Why are we different.  The line is that you
> prevent testicular cancer in males.  How many Cavaliers do you know who have
> died from testicular cancer?  I believe that over-vaccination is what
> compomises their immune system and makes them succeptible to cancer,
> epilepsy, leukemia, etc.  I believe in a raw diet and the health benefits it
> affords.
> Why do vets urge you to get your puppy spayed or neutered young?  My
> opinion.....many people switch vets easily, especially when just starting
> with one.  If he has you now - he may not have you when your puppy is a year
> old.  So their policy is to get that puppy before you lose the owner to
> another vet.
> I have tried to convince those ethical breeders who believe they are doing
> the right thing by restricted pedigrees that there is a better method.  There
> are some in the CKCSC who are calling my contractual provisions "Lasser's
> Law" and have asked me to write it out and send it to the Bulletin but I have
> not done so because I have no desire to spend any more time defending myself
> than necessary.
> However, this is my "protocol'" and my reasons are as follows:
> I know without a doubt that a resticted pedigree will no sooner stop an
> unethical person from breeding a litter than I expect the importers to stop
> telling buyers they don't need to have their puppies health checked because
> they are from Europe.
> They just don't care whether they have AKC or CKCSC papers and would be just
> as happy to have an official looking document from the Clean Plate Club, USA.
> I used to sell all my puppies on a co-ownership so I could control what they
> did with MY puppies (they are mine as long as they carry the Welmforth kennel
> name....as are all the puppies that follow.)  Then I decided that I did not
> want to be legally responsible for someone else's dog and came up with this
> policy almost 4 years ago and have been very happy with it.
> My contract say the following:  "Any puppies that result from a breeding, not
> authorized by me in writing is a breech of this contract.  For each and every
> puppy, whether sold or given away, the purchaser owes Phyllis Lasser the sum
> of $3,000 per puppy."
> My purpose is to stop any thought of breeding and certainly to discourage any
> unethical person from taking the change and buying a puppy from me.  A
> restricted pedigree may or may not hold up in court.  I don't think most
> judges care about the politics of pedigree types.  What I have is a legal
> document...a contract.
> What I have done is protect my name as well as protect the puppy I am selling
> from falling into the wrong hands.
> I have spoken about my contracts on this list before, as well as talking
> about it at a breeders seminar at least 2 years ago and I am honestly
> astounded that so few people have shown an interest in following my lead and
> have continued to rely on restricted pedigrees to protect this breed.
> Well Barb, you did ask for my opinion.
> Phyllis
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