We don't warrantee for 'all' genetic problems.  We don't warrantee for the
life of the dog.  We don't warrantee for patellae problems because they can
and do happen because of accidents.  We don't warrantee for eye issues
because the pups are cleared by an opthamologist before they are placed.  We
cannot predict that something will happen to their eyes in the future.  Our
dogs are CERFed, that is the best we can do on eyes. We feel that our
breeding program has been carefully planned to avoid "early onset MVD", not
MVD in general.  I just don't feel that there is a way to do that.  Early
onset, maybe yes,....MVD in general, no.  We feel that by having OFA
certificates on our breeding animals, we can stand behind their hips.  So,
if our pup is diagnosed by two specialists with MVD or HD in the first year,
we return the price of the pup, so that the owners can apply that money to
the medical care of the pup.  If it is within the second year, we return
half of the purchase price, and if it is within the third year, we return
25% of the purchase price.  In all cases, they can keep the puppy or have
the option of returning it to us, and we have set ourselves up here so that
we can keep a few puppies who may be returned to us and let them live out
their lives right here.   We have a little sentence that says some like in
the case of other genetic diseases, we can negotiate some sort of help, but
it is intentionally vague because genetic disorders are often times simply
not predictable, and only our responsibility if we have knowingly bred those
dogs, which of course, we aren't.  We feel that a warrantee of this sort
gives us some protection against breaking the bank, but it also gives the
puppy buyer some protection as well.  All of our breedings are planned for
the show ring, but all of our puppies don't turn out as show dogs, so we try
to plan ahead for both.  Myra


>From: "Susan A. Schlenger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel List
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>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] question on champions & longevity
>Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 14:08:08 -0400
>
>Hi, Leanne,
>         I have to agree with this wholeheartedly.  I think the difference
>between me and those who warrantee on paper all genetic problems is that
>I would *want* to replace a puppy if I could so do, but don't wish to
>guarantee against ALL health conditions.  I want it to be at *my
>discretion* and not at the discretion of a judge.
>
>This is really about which Laura and I disagree......not that one
>shouldn't be there for anyone to whom one has sold pets.
>
>best,
>
>Suze
>
>Leanne Bertani wrote:
>  If it costs
> > me a few puppies during my lifetime, so be it; I'd rather live with a
>clear
> > conscience.
> >
> > I'm not saying that we should ignore type; I love nothing more than a
>typey
> > dog.  I'm just saying that there are more places to judge a breeding
>program
> > and a person's accomplishments than in a CKCSCUSA ring, and that's in
>the
> > hearts of the pet owners.
> >
> >  Leanne
> >
> >
>--
>Suze at Llawen Cavaliers
>"...I have seen that in any great undertaking it is not enough for a man
>to depend simply upon himself."  -Isna Ia-wica
>"Thought comes before speech" Luther Standing Bear
>
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