Yes, but Pat, you are not a puppy pyramider.  They sell every bitch puppy on
several puppies, even entire litters, back.  That is what I was talking
about, not breeders who co-own.  I would co-own myself under the right set
of circumstances, but I wouldn't ever ask for a puppy back under any
circumstances.  Myra


>From: Harry & Pat Barrington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] Reasons for Co-Own
>Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 11:04:15 +0200
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>Glenn wrote: "And not one breeder did I come across that didn't also want
>to co-own.  However, that did not alarm me too much because I figured if
>they wanted their name on the dog then they must be pretty confident that's
>it's a good representative of their line."
>
>Myra wrote:  "In a lot of cases, Glenn...the breeder wants their name on
>the puppy no matter what it's quality is, so they get puppies back from
>you.  The puppy pyramiders don't really care all that much about quality;
>only quantity."
>
>At the time a co-ownership is arranged, I would think that the reasons
>would be spelled out.  In Canada, whoever breeds a litter has their kennel
>name as the first portion of the registered name.  If another breeder
>purchases that puppy prior to individual registration and has their own
>kennel name, then the option is available to also put their kennel name
>into the registered name.  Maximum length of the name is 30 characters,
>including spaces and punctuation.  Is it different in the U.S. or
>elsewhere?
>
>My main reason to co-own a puppy I produced would be to ensure that no
>breeding happened that I was not in favour of.  This helps to ensure your
>input; otherwise, without your signature on the Application for
>Registration of a Litter, the resulting puppies would not be registerable.
>Co-ownership agreements also serve as a safety net.  IF I were placing a
>show prospect puppy with a relative newcomer/inexperienced breeder, I would
>always do a co-ownership for that reason.  The other conditions of such a
>partnership are dependant upon the individual circumstances.  Another good
>reason for co-ownership is to ensure your particular standards of health
>testing, showing prior to a breeding.  It is always an option to fully
>transfer the puppy/adult to the name of the buyer once your mutually agreed
>upon conditions have been met. Co-owns are not only about money, puppies
>back, or advertising.  I share this as general info and not specifically
>addressed to Myra and Glenn or the those "in the know" :)
>
>
>Pat Barrington - Barrington Cavaliers (Southern Ontario-Canada)
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