G.W. Haywood wrote:

> On the point about accepting and then rejecting, no, you misunderstand
> the SMTP conversation.  It is perfectly possible to read an entire mail
> message and yet still reject it.


Presuming you mean the message is read up to the final cr.cr, this is 
true. It is the last decision point for accepting or rejecting the 
message. That is the point at which delivery responsibility changes from 
the sending MTA to the recipient MTA.

It is also possible the sending system will send the final cr.cr and 
drop the connection before receiving the status - spammers have no use 
for the status. But it's worth knowing what happens with the message and 
your MTA when the connection is dropped at that instant.

Beyond that, some MTAs will accept responsibility for message handling 
and then later discover it is not deliverable. They then send an NDR to 
the From: address which can be any random string that looks like an 
email address. Often it is a real address with an active mail box and so 
that is where the NDR goes. This is allowed by the RFCs but is 
incredibly stupid to allow. The problem is often a matter of the 
secondary not having a current (or any) list if valid users. This even 
happens when the primary is not privy to the valid user base but simply 
throws incoming mail to an Exchange server inside the firewall.

It can also happen when multiple MX servers for a domain have dissimilar 
filtering, for example. The secondary with weaker filtering accepts the 
message and delivers it to the primary which rejects it. The secondary 
still has the delivery responsibility and is compelled to send an NDR to 
the original sender so somebody's granny gets spammed.

Back to the original discussion - nothing I've read has convinced me 
that using 5xx codes is anything but a good idea, and it allows me to 
focus on problems in my own part of the net and more importantly to 
ignore problems others are having because they are too altruistic, or 
too misconfigured.

dp



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