I feel the same way and I assume many others share the sentiment and logic.
My question is about finding an angle to have investors like YCombinator (esp that PG is big Lisp guy) to favor companies that use full stack Clojure or at least ClojureScript. The angle I'm thinking of is like so: Clojure/Script is a talent retention tool and startups will do better if they use it, if only for that reason, but the bigger reason for startups to use it is that it helps programmers become better at their craft, leading to superior products and superior teams. If this theory is anecdotally "proven" then we can give plenty of real examples. Yup, just trying to find an angle, if there is one, to get more startups using Clojure/Script so we can all enjoy a bigger and more diverse ecosystem.... Surely, this is the same wish most practitioners have. So maybe we can get the community behind a Clojure/Script education campaign, or just seeding that thought.... :) On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 7:26 AM, Brian J. Rubinton <[email protected]> wrote: > Is your question more generally, are employees more engaged / productive > / loyal when given the opportunity to use cutting edge tools? (and do VCs > recognize such tools as a competitive advantage vs an unnecessary risk that > makes hiring difficult?) > > Or, is your question whether Clojure/Script is such a tool? > > Personally, the only reason I considered my current employer is because > the team is full stack Clojure. For me this is a huge source of job > stickiness. I feel like I'm becoming a better programmer faster -- I'm > learning more -- using Clojure than I would using traditional tools. For > that reason my first question of any other opportunity is whether they use > a tool with similar promise. > > PG's "Beating the Averages" feels relevant here: > http://www.paulgraham.com/avg.html > That's from the entrepreneur's perspective. Not sure whether the broader > VC community agrees. > > - Brian > > On 4/15/15 9:48 AM, Marc Fawzi wrote: > > fixed title.... would like to discuss in person with other interested > folks if not suitable for the mailing list... :) > > On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 10:06 PM, Marc Fawzi <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hey everyone, >> >> Would you say that Clojure/Script, owing to its relative obscurity and >> great design, can be a talent retention tool for startups? >> >> I feel more motivated to go to work every day and more stickiness with my >> employer as a direct consequence of working with ClojureScript and Reagent. >> >> Do you think this is a general phenomenon? >> >> If so, what can we do to educate the VC community as to the advantages of >> funding startups that use Clojure/Script? Could this ever fly? >> >> Or is it a situation where most of the world outside this mailing list >> (and a few other ones) views ClojureScript as a science experiment? >> >> Just very curious. If the consensus on this is positive im sure a few of >> us determined souls would be inclined to *help* educate the VCs and >> startups thru a potentially crowd funded direct education campaign... Or >> community good will. >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone > > > -- > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > your first post. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "ClojureScript" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojurescript. > > > -- > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > your first post. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "ClojureScript" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojurescript. > -- Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ClojureScript" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojurescript.
