Start a new one Cade...

Kev.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Cade Cairns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: (clug-talk) some quick notes


SEBASTIEN YOU SPELLED SOPHISTICATED WRONG PLEASE CHECK THE RFC AND THEN
BLAME MICROSOFT BUT PLEASE CALL IT MICRO$OFT!!

guys can this thread please end?  argh.

On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, [ISO-8859-1] S�bastien Taylor wrote:

> Maybe his mail client is "sofisticated" enough to see that both
> emails are the same ;-)
>
> Ian Bruseker a �crit:
> > You aren't getting two replies?  Odd.  Cause when I hit reply, there are
> > indeed two email addresses that the email (even this one that I type
right
> > now) go to - the CLUG talk list address, and your calpc address.  If you
> > aren't actually getting two copies of this email, then you either don't
> > actually read all your email, or have some filter magic going on.  :-)
> >
> > Ian
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: David J. Bourassa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 8:16 PM
> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Subject: Re: (clug-talk) some quick notes
> >>
> >>
> >>Just to correct you, Ian.  I'm not getting two replies, like Aaron.
> >>Just the one, thank you very much.  My reply-to address is different
> >>than my proper email address because I use an alias for my everyday
> >>email address.  That way, if I ever change ISP's, I only have to change
> >>the alias' redirection.
> >>
> >>As to Aarons' situation, I'm probably off the mark there, as I was only
> >>thinking aloud that you might have been hitting the reply to all button
> >>instead of the normal "reply" button.  My apologies, mea culpa, etc.
> >>
> >>Ian Bruseker wrote:
> >>
> >>>Absolutely positive.  I do know how to work a mouse.  ;-)
> >>>
> >>>Huh, well, I was mistaken about one thing.  Aaron isn't the
> >>
> >>only one on the
> >>
> >>>list who gets two replies - you do too.
> >>>
> >>>Let me hypothesize: Both of you have explicitly set Reply To in
> >>
> >>your email
> >>
> >>>program settings.  Am I correct?  Check the email headers.  All
> >>
> >>the answers
> >>
> >>>are there.  There are 2 Reply-To entries in the headers of each
> >>
> >>email you
> >>
> >>>guys send out, one generated by your MUA, one generated by the
> >>
> >>mailing list
> >>
> >>>software.  Reply-to is only really intended for use when you
> >>
> >>send from one
> >>
> >>>email address, but expect the reply to go to a different address.
Since
> >>>both of you seem to send and receive from the same address, you don't
> >>>actually need to set that.  Furthermore, the CLUG mailing list software
> >>>(more specifically, the list admin, whoever you are, has set it
> >>
> >>up this way)
> >>
> >>>does the extra magic of adding a reply-to entry for the list as
> >>
> >>the email
> >>
> >>>passes through (this is known as "Reply-to Munging", see link below),
to
> >>>make sure conversations stay on the list, where one expects
> >>
> >>them to be.  It
> >>
> >>>does not, however, remove any existing reply-to entries, as a
> >>
> >>courtesy to
> >>
> >>>the sender, to respect their settings.  Since you guys have
> >>
> >>explicitly set
> >>
> >>>it, there are two reply-to's, so Outlook is putting both those
> >>
> >>address in
> >>
> >>>the To: line of any reply.  That doesn't seem to be what you want, so I
> >>>suggest you unset Reply-to, since you don't actually need it to be set.
> >>>
> >>>(Don't blame Outlook, by the way, it's only doing its job - two
reply-to
> >>>headers, two To: addresses.  If you want to blame the user for not
> >>>explicitly deleting your personal email address from every
> >>
> >>reply they want
> >>
> >>>to send to the list, go ahead, but they shouldn't have to do it
> >>
> >>in the first
> >>
> >>>place.)
> >>>
> >>>Note that if the mailing list software did not set reply-to,
> >>
> >>and since you
> >>
> >>>guys explicitly do set reply-to, then every reply to you would
> >>
> >>instantly go
> >>
> >>>off-list.
> >>>
> >>>For the definitive argument for why reply-to munging is a bad
> >>
> >>thing, read
> >>
> >>>http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html  But if you
> >>
> >>agree with the
> >>
> >>>positions stated in that document, take it up with the list
> >>
> >>admin, not with
> >>
> >>>the list users.
> >>>
> >>>Personally, I don't care which way it's set.  Sometimes I take
> >>
> >>the time to
> >>
> >>>delete the extra addresses, sometimes I don't, but if you get
> >>
> >>two replies
> >>
> >>>from me, you have no one to blame but yourself and the list admin.  ;-)
> >>>
> >>>Ian
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: David J. Bourassa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>>>Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 12:00 PM
> >>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>Subject: Re: (clug-talk) some quick notes
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>I don't know Ian.  Are you sure you're not hitting the "Reply to All
> >>>>button" ?  Mine doesn't work that way (Mozilla).
> >>>>
> >>>>Ian Bruseker wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Aaron,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Take a look at the "To:" line.  Notice it has both the clug
> >>>>>email and your
> >>>>>email address?  I hit "Reply", and that's what I got as reply to
email
> >>>>>addresses.  No other person on this list has that issue.  I think the
> >>>>>problem is at your end.  Check your email program settings,
> >>>>
> >>the issue is
> >>
> >>>>>probably there.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Ian
> >>>>
> >>>>--
>
>>>  ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>                    Dave Bourassa at
> >>>>        http://members.shaw.ca/djb.enterprises/
> >>>>                mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>  ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>--
> >>   ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>                     Dave Bourassa at
> >>         http://members.shaw.ca/djb.enterprises/
> >>                 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>   ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>




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