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On Thursday 05 December 2002 11:34, Andrew Barnes wrote:
> At last night's meeting, the issue of moving to a UBB forum was broached.
> I wondered if there was more interest for this as there's benefits to be
> had - less chance of spam,
what spam? *looks around* i don't see any spam, do you?
> IMO easier to refer someone to a forum thread,
> more static viewing so a guest can browse and get the feeling of the
> community, moderation if necessary... I have used phpBB - it's both free
> and quite good.
if you mean "move from email lists to web boards" the answer from me at least
is a resounding "Hell no!". i do not have the time nor patience for the
inneficiencies of web boards. email is far more accessable, quick and usable
for this sort of conversation.
if you mean "augment the email list with a web board" i could be in favour of
that. boards for things like listing hardware/software needed/available,
linux jobs/companies, discussion of the website ;-) etc... might be well
served by a bulletin board on the website while keeping that noise of this
list.
but, in general, web boards are horrible for the sort of communications we do
on this email list. if you want me to rant on about why, i can. but i would
assume that most people here already know the reasons.
> I am unfamiliar with how CLUG is exists on the webserver though - I got the
> impression that it is people sharing their bandwidth by providing hosting.
> Is that correct?
yes
> The reason I ask is that I would like to inquire if I (or someone) could
> redesign the website.
i don't think anyone would object to a nice site design... mock-ups and
concept previews for people to peruse are more than welcome... just post the
URL to the list and i'm sure you'll get feedback...
> I mean no disrepect to the efforts that have gone
> into what currently exists, but the layout is rather antiquated and doesn't
> lend to easy access.
don't worry, i don't think there was much in the way of any "design". it's
just a wiki site with some very basic HTML around each page...
> I think the site would attract more if it were
> easier to browse, and the content on the main page was a little more active
> - more Linux related news amidst CLUG news for a portal effect. Not
> looking to re-create Slashdot but it adds to why someone would go to the
i'd suggest that at most we have listings of the last N stories from
appropriate linux sites using the RDFs they publish in side boxes. i don't
think calgary.linux.ca would be successful at nor is an appropriate place for
YALNS (yet another linux news site ;)
> site. My intention or suggestion would be to move to a PHP/MySQL etc.
the voting/membership system is PHP/pgsql, so i think we already have a
PHP/database requirement. it might be nice to keep it all in a single db
engine if possible...
> setup in the interest of adding email newsletter support,
by "email newsletter" do you mean a "what's going on in CLUG" type thing? if
so, i'd suggest that it would be pretty small and that there are better
places on the net to get non-CLUG related info...
> polling
for?
> accounts for site administration like news posting and backups....
that would be nice... the reason we're using wiki right now is to make this
easy. of course, if there are admins, then those admins need to be dilligent
in keeping the site in shape (e.g. posting news submissions). i for one am
in favour of a more open style of a site rather than tight control by a few
admins: it means we rely less on those admins (and require less of those
admins; it works both ways) and ensures the site is free and open.
in the time we've had the wiki up we've had two small incidents that were both
easy to correct.
> The forum would
> provide even more of a backend to the site, with the ability to discuss
> news topics etc. and allow newcomers easy access to view the community.
i think t
> am I stepping on toes?
no..
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Aaron J. Seigo
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"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler"
- Albert Einstein
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