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On Tuesday 21 January 2003 11:56, Jason Louie wrote:
> I've installed Mandrake 8.2 onto a P133 with about 2Gb HDD. I've had
how much RAM? that tends to be quite an important factor.
> to pick and choose most applications on the system due to lack of space
> on the HDD and the use of the machine, (will be a web, ftp and samba
> server mainly.) I have kde 2.2.2 and several other applications that I
> can cram in there from disk install simply to familiarize myself with
> administrating a linux system.
KDE, Mozilla, etc, have little to do with admin'ing a linux server. you don't
need them in those sorts of installs (think security, resource usage, and
functional requirements) and on the hardware you have it will be annoyingly
slow (as you've already discovered).
icewm or blackbox with links as your web browser will make it tolerable all
over again =)
> I find that the machine is quite slow with things like applications
> running in kde, (java VM is unbearable to use).
a P133 is a P133 and linux isn't magic pixie dust. nor any other system, for
that matter; how fast would w2k or windows XP run on it?
on a system of that caliber i'd recommend ditching the desktop environment and
running something light. icewm comes w/mdk and is the default windowmanager
for non-desktop installs. blackbox also comes w/mdk and is quite nice.
and don't even think about java on something that slow.
> For example, I've updated Mozilla but I needed to manually remove the
> old version, (installed via installation disk,) to prevent two separate
> versions running.
define "updated" and "manually remove"...
> It seems that many of the applications that come with the installation
> is not in the same directory paths as with the application install.
parse error. could you try this one again so even i can grok it? =)
> Mandrake update is not up to date with version and doesn't seem to have
> all the applications I want.
try updgrading to MDK 9. you 'll find newer software available for it and it
will likely run faster.
you can do this directly from your 8.2 install w/out wiping the entire thing
out (just choose the upgrade option when you start the install and it takes
over from there...) of course, get rid of KDE2 first. you'll save yourself
pain.
> I've had some problems with dependencies
> installing with RPM and have had the best results with installing from
> source... is this the way to go? What am I missing?
urpmi, most likely. installing from source is fine, though, depending on what
you are installing, how you are installing it and your general skill level.
> On a side note I am running KDE 2.2.2 with limited HDD space. Would
> KDE 3.0 be faster. Should I switch to Gnome, (keep in mind I have
> limited HDD space.)
KDE3 would likely be faster, as would GNOME2. earlier versions of each would
likely be slower, save for KDE1 which was rather lightweight. however, i
doubt either KDE3 or GNOME2 would be fast enough. you really want to ditch
the desktop environments on a system that light.
if you can swing it, try icewm or blackbox... they are nice and light and are
more appropriate for a server system anyways.
and that's the beauty of free software: you can pick and choose the software
stylings for your resources and preferences.
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Aaron J. Seigo
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