Shawn wrote: > Plus, I think it would be rather disrepsectful to Kin to tell him > "thanks, but the time you spent preping for this isn't needed anymore."
Not at all what I intended and I think I have been decent about Kin's time and iterated the fact that I am not putting-up and therefore should be a secondary voice at best. However, it has become apparent that I have offended Kin and I can understand that. As Shawn points out, time is one thing that we can all never get back. Kin: I acknowledge that I have offended you and I did not intend to. I did not intend to marginalize you or your time and I value your input into the LUG. I admire the fact that you have volunteered your time and effort to this Open House. I really have no leg to stand on as I will not be there nor be presenting and you (and others who are doing do) are doing much more than I in presenting FOSS to the community. I am but an armchair quarterback in this affair, > Let's not just throw away his efforts because a mail server > meets YOUR needs more immediately than a FOSS discussion. Again, judgment. And again, shame on you Shawn. Why do you feel that a Scalix presentation meet MY needs, exactly? Response required. This is professional in nature and I wouldn't normally throw it out here, but I feel provoked now. As some of you may know, Kevin is the principal of Digital Adrenaline in town here, We have contracted Kevin to build and deploy a Scalix VM for us which he has done with precision and accuracy. Dial him up if you need any Scalix help. However, I have little or no interest in a Scalix presentation for two reasons: 1. We already have a VM that Kevin has built, and 2. Kevin has been nothing but helpful in assisting us to build our own Scalix VM Therefore, my desire for a Scalix presentation isn't about my interests or need for information on Scalix. Rather, it's a genuine desire to "hit 'em where it feels good" which is bang-O on Exchange. Prior to December 4th, I spent the last 2 years working in a W2K3 AD Domain environment for a defence contractor. Within that domain was more than one Exchange server served over an encrypted radio net. I am extremely well versed on the shortcomings of an Exchange server and have identified an Exchange replacement as an exceptional opportunity for FOSS to excel. > The CUUG open house is going to populated by folks who are well familiar > with the challenges of email systems. Some of the CUUG regulars make > CLUG "experts" look like amateurs. The point is that they are likely > familiar with mail server presentations already. I think it would be > better to discuss how their needs may be met by open source - from a > business perspective. Not sure how this fuels your point. If your potential attendees are well versed in FOSS and mail servers (and by association well versed in other rather technical server-type things), then why would Kin's general talk be anything new to them? > But I DO want to see that scalix presentation as well, but would expect > it to take at least an hour to do it any justice. I see your military training has taught you the art of the military "shit sandwich": start with something nice, put something crappy in the middle, and then end with something nice :) J -- Key fingerprint: BDE0 DE52 B8C0 0CDF 7653 E5A2 D861 7877 0D3B 813E http://www.jonwatson.ca +1.403.770.2837 "Trying to learn to hack on a DOS or Windows machine or under MacOS is like trying to learn to dance while wearing a body cast" - ESR _______________________________________________ clug-talk mailing list [email protected] http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) **Please remove these lines when replying
