You would not need to do a 14 day assessment as they do not pay for day of discharge, so if they leave on day 14, you get paid for days 1-13. The 5 day MDS pays through day 14. Clear as mud, right? Anyway, I do not do the admission/14 day. Michelle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gola, Tammy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 12:40 PM Subject: RE: 14 day Medicare
> But do you need to code the assessment 01/1 if they leave on day 14, or can > it be coded 00/1 (this is for the 5 day MDS), I guess my question is at > least do you have to have an OBRA admission assessment if they leave on day > 14 > > Tammy Gola BSN, RN, CRNAC > Wilkes-Barre General Hospital > Transitional Care Unit > 575 North River Street > Wilkes-Barre, PA. 187641-0001 > 570-552-5417 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brenda Chance [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 1:34 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: 14 day medicare > > > You are correct! > > Brenda W. Chance, RN, RAC-C > MDS Coordinator > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, > is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain > confidential > and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or > distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, > please > contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the > original > message. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Karen Marolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 1:15 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: 14 day medicare > > We are hospital based, most everyone goes home before day 14 so we do > the initial assmt with the 14 day mds. Our ard is usually day 12---but > if the pt discharges on day 14 I was always under the understanding that > the 14 day assmt did not have to be completed, *-Am I wrong???? > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/19/2004 11:41:07 AM >>> > If the resident was at your facility for 14 days, then your assessment > must be coded as an admission assessment completed with raps. > Brenda W. Chance, RN, RAC-C > MDS Coordinator > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, > is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain > confidential > and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or > distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, > please > contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the > original > message. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Debbie Settle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 10:03 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: 14 day medicare > > Did you do Raps because they were a New Admit, Sig Change, or Annual? > Remember that a new admit still needs RAPS doen by day 14. 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