Hi Greenie:

I watched 60 Minutes and was appalled that the US cost is 3 times higher for 
Gleevec than in Canada, Europe and Australia.  I have insurance but in a couple 
of years I'll be going to medicare and I'm not certain how that will work out 
for me.  Hopefully there will be generic Gleevec by that point.


Hope you and Grace are well and that all of our friends on this site are 
enjoying some good health, too.


Marcie



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To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
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Hi Gang,  did any of you folks watch 60 min. last night.  It was about the cost 
of cancer drugs and Gleevec was on the list of high cost.  Some people can't 
afford to pay the co-pay so their not getting the drug. Some people are taking 
haft the amount that their suppose to take to same on cost.  It's all about 
money.  In my mind you can't tell me they don't have a cure for CML they would 
loose so much money plus all of the research, etc.   Novartis has made billions 
of dollars since the begining in May of 2001.  I would say they have received 
their return of investment spent on research by now.  I hope all is well with 
everyone out their.
 
Greenie
 

In a message dated 10/5/2014 6:44:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[email protected] writes:
  
Hi Marcie,   


  
We all seem to have our own afflictions so it isn't only me but every one   of 
us that needs prayers for a healthy new year no matter what religion we may   
be.
  


  
I so much appreciate your prayers for me to find myself transplanted with   a 
kidney soon. Hopefully...
  


  
18's,
  


  
Marty
  

  
On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 9:00 PM, 'Marcie Goodman' via   CMLHope 
<[email protected]> wrote:
  
    
    
Hi Marty,
    


    
How are you since your last surgery?  Here's hoping that the New     Year will 
bring abundant blessings to all, but especially to you, dear     Marty, for a 
transplant to come your way very shortly. 
    


    
Marcie

Sent from my iPad
    

On Oct 4, 2014, at 8:10 PM, Marty Gartenberg <[email protected]> wrote:


    
      
      
Hi Maria,       


      
We are still around so you don't have to worry. 
      


      
Today is my New Year and I prayed for everyone to have a happy and       
healthy New Year. May any afflictions that anyone has become healed, and       
by the grace of GOD that will happen. I know in my heart that there is a       
cure coming for CML.
      


      
18,s
      


      
Marty
      

      
On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Maria Cashion <[email protected]> wrote:
      
        
Hi everyone!!!!         
I hope that all is well with everyone of you!!!!! Haven't noticed         any 
activity in a while and that worries me!!!!
        


        
Maria
        

        
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Susan Zimmerman <[email protected]>: Sep 27 11:38PM -0400                 

This is so helpful, if I can figure it out,                 lol....
 
 
Always wondered what ANC                 was......
 
 
Susan
 
 
 
 
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From: 'Skip Duffie' via CMLHope <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope                 <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, Sep                 27, 2014 4:44 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] jeanies blood results                 and                
 Marty
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
http://www.mdcalc.com/absolute-neutrophil-count-anc/
Hi                 Jeanie and all. Just reading your report, as it seem 
different                 to our reports here in NS... I will try to explain 
ANC as best                 as I can. First if you look to the right of my 
actual counts,                 you will see what the count should be. next you 
will not find                 ANC, this count is a combination of white cells 
and neutrophils,                 These counts do not appear on the copy of your 
results. To find                 this count (ask your nurse or lab tech) see 
mine from this Fri.                 
the formula is ANC = through the years 
I found a way not                 exact but just take %of neutrophils and 
multiply by white                 count,what this indicates is how immune 
compromised your are. In                 fact I think its the most important 
count you can get.                 Neutrophils indicated how your system is 
retaining bug fighting                 capabilities and they call it ANC I 
still figure mine out twice                 week. If I have all the information 
like % bands and Segments as                 in the formula above will use it. 
but most times I just use my                 method. I hope I did not confuse 
you but if your neutrophils are                 up (see my report) that's good 
but if low avoid crowded spaces (                 I miss church)                
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 



On                 Friday, September 26, 2014 10:03 PM, Marty Gartenberg 
<[email protected]>                 wrote:


 

 
Hi                 Jeanie,
 
 
Pain especially severe pain is                 the worst thing that someone 
could ever go through. I have been                 through a lot of severe pain 
in my life. Having my spleen                 surgically removed was really bad 
but then I had some very                 severe gout attacks, but even worse 
was two bouts with the                 shingles. However the absolutly worst 
pain in my life were the                 terrible mouth sores when I went 
through my bone marrow                 transplant. It hurt so badly that I was 
put on a morphine drip                 that I was able to control with a 
button. The only thing that it                 did was to make me hullicinate 
and throw up. It got so bad that                 I removed the morphine tube 
and went on with the pain. I just                 decided to put my mind in a 
different place. The transplant                 nurse gowned up and came into 
my bubble and held my hand in her                 gloved hand and whispered 
through her mask three words into my                 ear. I always remembered 
those three words to this day. She said                 "It's only temporary" 
and even though I suffered greatly I would                 say those words over 
and over again. They helped me deal with                 the pain, but it still 
hurt and I wouldn't let my mind soak it                 in.
 
 
18's,
 
 
Marty
 
 
 
On                 Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 9:50 AM, ICANDOALLTTC via CMLHope 
<[email protected]>                 wrote:
 
 
Hi Marty and so glad you are home;                 I pray that everything goes 
well. 
As we walk through this                 life, it seems pain is very much a part 
of it. I try to cope,                 and I remember Millie telling me that she 
would cope with the                 pain as well as she could. My sister has 
knee pain and I would                 tell Millie that she woke up each morning 
in pain; so I told her                 we could all join together in a prayer 
in the morning as we all                 woke up with pain.

Coping with pain is hard because you                 don't know what is safe to 
take for the pain. As Sprycel is                 already a blood thinner, and 
most pain pills are blood thinners,                 you have to be careful that 
you don't get your blood too thin. I                 believe Millie had that 
problem, and she finally got a machine                 that would tell her how 
thin her blood was. However, as my                 platelets are high, I 
probably don't need to worry about the                 blood being too thin. 
Those with low platelets would have to                 watch it carefully.

I was taking Tramadol for pain and it                 helped some. I learned 
recently that it has been put on                 controlled drug list. My 
doctor never told me this drug could be                 addictive, so I took it 
at least once a day. Now I find out that                 it is addictive, and 
that you can't just go off of it. You have                 to cut down 
gradually as it affects the brain. If anyone is on                 this drug, 
google it and it will tell you all about it.

I                 had my visit at Moffit yesterday; it was good news. My 
platelets                 are back in the normal range but still higher than I 
would like                 at 362k/ul. WBC were 7.75 k/ul and a little higher 
than I would                 like. My onc however was happy with them and said 
I could come                 back in 3 months. I told him about my jaw pain, 
and he said to                 have the dentist x-ray my jaw, so I will have 
that done soon; if                 the jaw is ok then the onc might want to do 
other test. The pain                 in my jaw is much better, but not all the 
way well.

ANC                 was high; anyone know anything about this?
Thanks                 Blessings,
Jeanie<3

Here is a copy of my blood                 results for those that are           
      interested:

 
 



 
In                 a message dated 9/23/2014 7:54:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight 
Time, [email protected] writes:
Hi Jeannie and                 everyone else.
 
I had my surgery today and just got                 back home. Hopefully 
everything
went well but I won't know                 for sure until I get my dialysis 
tomorrow.
 
I am                 still a bit woozy and starting to have more pain right now 
so                 I
will continue this some other time.
 
Jeannie, I                 just want to say how badly I feel that you have such 
pain.
I                 hope that it gets better very soon.
 
You see that                 this CML site is something that makes all of us 
really
care                 for and about each other. We are actually just like a big  
               loving
family. Sometimes people that haven't experienced what                 we go 
through
really have no idea of what we do go                 through.
 
18's to each and every one of us. Today                 starts the Jewish New 
Year and
as such we are all hopefully                 written into the book of life. No 
matter
who you may be no                 matter what your religious beliefs are I 
truly wish
all of                 you a healthy life.
 
I would personally like to                 thank everyone for all of their good
thoughts and prayers                 that you are saying for me and to everyone 
                else.
 
18's
 
Marty
 
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