Beth, looking forward to meeting you.
 
greenie
 
 
In a message dated 12/2/2015 1:39:46 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[email protected] writes:

Greenie, give my regards to Grace...hope she  recoops easily..glad it was a 
"mini".....I will call you when I get in  ..probably the 13th..as travel 
day the day before is hard...looking forward to  meeting you and Grace..love, 
Beth


-----Original  Message-----
From: Myvety2k via CMLHope  <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope  <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, Nov 25, 2015 1:30  pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day


 
Hi Beth, Give me a call when you arrive in Fort Myers.   Cell phone is 
(219)973-8717.  Had my 4 month check up with my internist  yesterday everything 
O. K.. Blood O. K. but my creatinine was high again  1.57.  It's been 
between 1.2 and 1.6 going back to 1997 way before I  started Gleevec in the 
first 
week in Jan. 2000.
 
Grace had a mini stroke last month and doing O.K. which  kicked my heart 
into over drive and my skip a beat started up. Had a stress  test last week 
and passed that without a problem but they did put me on a 21  day monitor 
which is more fun then you can imagine.  Other wise I'm doing  just fine.
 
You all have a nice Thanksgiving,
 
Greenie
Fort Myers, FL.
 
Club member #48
 
 
 
In a message dated 11/25/2015 2:13:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])   writes:

thanks  Richard.... And happy Thanksgiving Day to everyone tomorrow.. I 
hope  everyone here finds themselves in a place that is peaceful and lifegiving 
 this holiday. I wish you all a feel good kind of day in every  way....

off sprycel for 2.5 weeks thus far.. initially felt a lot  better..but last 
couple of days..autoimmune...whatever is creeping in with  that deep 
fatigue in my muscles etc....doing detox..thanks for the advice  all..I am 
going 
to take some supplements I cannot take with sprycel in the  hopes of cleaning 
and calming my system...  


will keep you all posted..thinking of each and everyone here....


group  hug. Beth.
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard  H <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) >
To:  CMLHope <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) >
Sent:  Thu, Nov 19, 2015 10:47 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test  Day


 
great  news that you are getting a breather from the meds. I hope your 
counts stay  low enough you get a few MONTHS instead of weeks.  We are praying 
for  that.

Richard H.

On Thursday, November 19, 2015 at 7:27:26 PM  UTC-6, Beth wrote:  
Dear Susan,  


Concerned to hear your news...I know you wanted to hear better..It's  so 
hard when we hit an unexpected bump in the road....when are you coming  back 
to see your doc? I am in town except for Dec. 12-19th...would love to  meet 
you this time. And Greenie....will be in Fort Myers so hopefully can  see you 
and your sweetie..and my other cml buddies who live down  south...chemo 
brain...forgive me!.


I have gone off everything...my BCR was good enough to take some time  to 
cleanse my body...was just too sick....will go back on in a few  
weeks...enjoying GRAPEFRUIT!!! for a couple of weeks!.


Love to all and a happy and healthy Thanksgiving to each and everyone  of 
you...


18's  and love, Beth


-----Original Message-----
From: 'Susan Zimmerman' via  CMLHope <[email protected]_ (ab
out:blank) >
To: cmlhope <[email protected]_ (about:blank) >
Sent: Fri, Oct 30, 2015  8:26 am
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day


Hi all,  


My bcr/abl results were not as great as I hoped.  Last time I  was 
.012.....almost to zero.  This time I expected to be zero, but  alas I am up to 
.348.  So doc wants me to go to 300 mg bosulif,  instead of 100 mg.  I am 
compromising and will go to 200 so I don't  have to stay in the bathroom all 
day.  
I was ready to get a local  test next time and forego going to Chicago 
every 3 months.  Now she  wants to see me in one month after I up the dose.  
Ugh!  So  thankful I do have a wonderful doc even if I do decide myself on my  
dosage.  She does not put me down about it, and supports me in every  way. 


Beth, keeping my fingers crossed for you and saying a prayer.  Marty, you 
are so loved and hope your kidney stuff is getting  better.  Your pics were 
beautiful.   

18's and blessings,
Susan Z




-----Original  Message-----
From: Marty Gartenberg <[email protected]_ (about:blank) >
To: cmlhope <[email protected]_ (about:blank) >
Sent: Thu, Oct 29, 2015  10:11 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day


 
Yes since everything has been going on I had leave my home in  PA empty for 
nearly two years, but let me tell you something about that  crisp clean air 
and simply beautiful colors of all of the trees that you  can see for 
miles. An example is route 97 which separates upstate NY from  PA with the 
Delaware river in between them. Route 97 goes from Port Jervis  all the way 
down 
to past Hancock NY, and is considered the most scenic  road it the United 
States. Right near Port Jervis there is route 97  winding like a snake on the 
edge of the road and is about 1,000 feet above  the Delaware River.  


I have driven in that area and I wouldn't ever drive on it in the  snow or 
at night. If by chance your ever there and I am in PA it is only  right 
across the Robeling bridge which is actually a one lane wooden  bridge only 
allowing one way of traffic then once it stops then the other  way.  


I am wishing you well with your results.


Don't forget to let everyone know.


18's,


Marty






On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 6:31 PM, bkbarney via  CMLHope 
<[email protected]_ (about:blank) >  wrote:

Hi all,  


Just saying hi! Wanted you all to know that I am thinking of you  and 
sending everyone a big hug and happy fall wishes... I know some of  you 
southern 
folks..will enjoy your 90 degree Florida temperatures  coming down...but us 
up north are enjoying the beauty of fall..it's cold  today, but should be 
back up in the 60's by Sunday....Indian  summer.....I just love it...


did BCR on Monday..waiting for results..then will decide plan for  next few 
months...


love, hugs and 18's to all, 




Beth


-----Original  Message-----
From: 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope <[email protected]_ (about:blank) >
To: cmlhope <[email protected]_ (about:blank) >
Sent: Sun, Oct 11, 2015  1:07 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day


 
Hi Beth 
I can never go off the meds either. My counts will shoot up  fast. 
Good luck
❤️

My Motto: Faith and Pills  
Jeanie 🐟🐟18,s   
Dx 1/2004. CML Leukemia
Started Gleevec 2/2004
Started Tasigna  9/2009
Started Sprycel 11/2009
Started Ponatinib January 2015
Dr Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center



On Oct 11, 2015, at 1:43 AM, bkbarney via CMLHope 
<[email protected]_ (about:blank) > wrote:



Dear Jeannie, Richard, Susan,  Marty, et al...thanks very much for 
responding to my question. I am  scared, but want to try something to help 
myself. 
We will see what  Dr.Druker has to say. In the mean time, what I do know, 
having been  off of sprycel for months at a time to deal with major surgeries  
several times, is that I always come out of remission, and quickly. I  don't 
hold without the sprycel. Usually the cells are showing at very  low 
numbers, but it means that without the agent that keeps them in  check, cancer g
rows. I wish this were not so. And I know it's not for  some lucky folks. 
Maybe with time, this will change for me. For now I  am developing a plan..will 
keep you all posted.   


love and 18's Beth


-----Original  Message-----
From: Marty Gartenberg <[email protected]_ (about:blank) >
To: cmlhope <[email protected]_ (about:blank) >
Sent: Thu, Oct 8,  2015 5:56 am
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day


 
Hi Jeannie, Beth, Richard as well as everyone on this  site,  


I have a friend (not had a friend, and still have this friend)  who had CML 
a little while after I had my transplant. At the time  there were no TKI's 
but there were only two things available. One was  a bone marrow transplant 
which was in it's infancy at the time and the  other was Alpha interferon 
but on an early study basis which actually  was a blind study. Depending on if 
those in this study would be  receiving this Alpha Interferon or a placebo.


Even before my friend I had to chose the Interferon or  the placebo in this 
blind study. I spoke with a lot of  oncologists about what to do. However 
there were no concise answers  because on one hand there was something that 
was still in a blind  study and who would know if that would even be given to 
this patient  or would the BMT be the way to go?


However, since there were no matching donors, but one, his  brother who 
refused, and I could never understand that, but since  there were no other 
choices he had no other choice but to try that  blind study. Well he was lucky 
enough to be accepted. And I have to  tell you that he really suffered some 
really bad side effects for  years afterwards. 


Eventually they were unable to detect any more CML, but he still  refused 
to go off of the Alpha Interferon and I suppose this was a  crutch in his 
life so he still remained on it for many years. So I  guess that he finally 
decided to go off of it. Once that happened his  life took a dramatic turn. No 
more side effects and no more CML, and  he is still alive and doing 
remarkably well today. 


As far as me, well my only choice was the BMT because of two  reasons. 
Since my white blood counts were at the time over 486,000 and  doubtful that I 
would survive, but basically the same thing with the  BMT but at least I had 
my sister as a donor who just happened to be a  perfect HLA match. So I 
tried the BMT, and it worked.


But yet there is still more to this story and some of you might  remember 
Zavie Miller and all three of us used to get together, and  called ourselves 
The Three Musketeers. This was well after Zavie got  to know Dr. Druker and 
he was started on STI-571 which when approved  by the FDA turned into 
Gleevec. 


So after that we all turned into The Three Musketeers. All of  this is 
ancient   history but my point is that whether to go off  or continue on the 
TKI's because you may be actually "cured" of CML  but you may still hold the 
touch of the crutch. So you see that there  are different strokes for 
different people.


Fortunately I don't have to make the choice because I already did  and 
believe me I really did suffer, but in the end it was worth  it.


Now knowing what I would do if my circumstances were different I  think 
that I would be off these TKI's and live my life, and if  something happens 
then you will have to deal with it, and you will.  Remember a crutch is a 
terrible thing to have.


I spend a lot of time trying to help, and your all very special  people to 
me as I am to you.


Those are my words of wisdom and please never forget what 18's  stands for. 
It is life yours and mine!


18's


Marty  




i 


On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:24 AM, Richard H  <[email protected]_ 
(about:blank) > wrote:

Just a quick glimpse about a med break.  The end  of March when I went to 
the hospital with Vertigo, The short break I  had on medicine did wonders for 
me.  Found some I shouldn't  have been taking, stopped some all together.  
I have felt so  much better that I would do it again under total control.   
Worried? Yes, but I realized afterwards it should have been done  earlier.

Richard H.  

On Wednesday, October 7,  2015 at 4:27:30 PM UTC-5, Beth wrote:  

HI Jeannie and all, ...I am due  for BCR abl testing so should get it in 
the next two weeks,  results two weeks later...so I will update when I know 
more...Had  a consult today at the Block Center here in Illinois.People tend  
to love him or hate him... I really like him. He thinks all my  issues are 
sprycel related. Thinks I should go off everything and  have drug holiday to 
give my autoimmune system a rest....steroids  briefly to try and lower cpk 
so I can move better without such a  severe boomerang effect.  Back issues 
are no worse. That's  good news from my end....since there have been several 
of my  fellow warriors here who have lost there remissions spontaneously  
after years of successful treatment with their TKI's.  I am  scared to go off, 
unless I have to ...ie. like I did for past  surgeries....however, I am 
thinking about it...perhaps I am just  too toxic, and time off would help me to 
rebuild and repair, and  tolerate better the TKI"s when I re-uptake in the 
future......so I  am sitting with this decision..Not sure what I am going to  
do...except pray, and listen to other's words of wisdom....I know  if I ask 
Dr. Druker, he would be fine with my taking a drug  holiday..but I emailed 
anyway......thoughts from my friends  here????


Love and 18;s, Beth

-----Original  Message-----





From:  'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, Oct 7,  2015 12:59 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day


 
Hi Beth and how are you?? 
Would love to have an update on all.  Thanks!!  ❤️❤️

My Motto: Faith and Pills  
Jeanie 🐟🐟18,s   
Dx 1/2004. CML Leukemia
Started Gleevec 2/2004
Started Tasigna  9/2009
Started Sprycel 11/2009
Started Ponatinib January 2015
Dr Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center



On Oct 7, 2015, at 11:35 AM, bkbarney via CMLHope <[email protected]> 
wrote:



Dear Richard,  
Sounds like good news all the way around. Hope your counts  continue to 
hold well and the November visit to the onc is a  positive one! Your wife is 
healing well..slow and steady. Thanks  for sharing the good news....Keeping 
you both in my thoughts and  prayers. Beth



-----Original  Message-----
From: 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope  <[email protected]>
Sent:  Wed, Oct 7, 2015 9:26 am
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test  Day


 
Hi Richard and happy you are better.  I hope your wife  will be home soon. 
Prayers always. 

My Motto: Faith and Pills  
Jeanie 🐟🐟18,s   
Dx 1/2004. CML Leukemia
Started Gleevec 2/2004
Started Tasigna  9/2009
Started Sprycel 11/2009
Started Ponatinib January 2015
Dr Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center



On Oct 7, 2015, at 12:01 AM, Richard H <[email protected]> wrote:




All is good at this house.  Saw  Kidney Dr. and my tests have improved the 
last 3 times.   Took my CBC and I am keeping my Hem. is holding at 10.  I  
hope it stays there until the end of Nov. when I visit my  ONC.  

My wife is improving, and will see the Dr.  Oct. 21st to see if she can 
start putting weight on the right  side.  Shoulder seems to be healing nicely.  
She has  the healing knot on the shoulder and is feeding herself with  her 
right hand and is raising the upper arm to almost shoulder  height without 
pain.  We are hoping she can come home in  Nov. when she can get out of the 
wheel chair and up and down  without help.  Due to heart surgery and a 
pacemaker all I  can due is call for help if she has a  problem.

18's

Richard H. 


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