Greenie, give my regards to Grace...hope she recoops easily..glad it was a 
"mini".....I will call you when I get in ..probably the 13th..as travel day the 
day before is hard...looking forward to meeting you and Grace..love, Beth



-----Original Message-----
From: Myvety2k via CMLHope <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, Nov 25, 2015 1:30 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day



Hi Beth, Give me a call when you arrive in Fort Myers.  Cell phone is 
(219)973-8717.  Had my 4 month check up with my internist yesterday everything 
O. K.. Blood O. K. but my creatinine was high again 1.57.  It's been between 
1.2 and 1.6 going back to 1997 way before I started Gleevec in the first week 
in Jan. 2000.
 
Grace had a mini stroke last month and doing O.K. which kicked my heart into 
over drive and my skip a beat started up. Had a stress test last week and 
passed that without a problem but they did put me on a 21 day monitor which is 
more fun then you can imagine.  Other wise I'm doing just fine.
 
You all have a nice Thanksgiving,
 
Greenie
Fort Myers, FL.
 
Club member #48
 
 

In a message dated 11/25/2015 2:13:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[email protected] writes:
thanks Richard.... And happy Thanksgiving Day to   everyone tomorrow.. I hope 
everyone here finds themselves in a place that is   peaceful and lifegiving 
this holiday. I wish you all a feel good kind of day   in every way....

off sprycel for 2.5 weeks thus far.. initially felt a   lot better..but last 
couple of days..autoimmune...whatever is creeping in with   that deep fatigue 
in my muscles etc....doing detox..thanks for the advice   all..I am going to 
take some supplements I cannot take with sprycel in the   hopes of cleaning and 
calming my system...   


  
will keep you all posted..thinking of each and everyone here....
  


  
group hug. Beth.
  
-----Original   Message-----
From: Richard H <[email protected]>
To: CMLHope   <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Nov 19, 2015 10:47   pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day

  
  
  
great news that you are getting a breather from the meds. I hope   your counts 
stay low enough you get a few MONTHS instead of weeks.  We   are praying for 
that.

Richard H.

On Thursday, November 19, 2015   at 7:27:26 PM UTC-6, Beth wrote:   
Dear Susan,     


    
Concerned to hear your news...I know you wanted to hear better..It's so     
hard when we hit an unexpected bump in the road....when are you coming back     
to see your doc? I am in town except for Dec. 12-19th...would love to meet     
you this time. And Greenie....will be in Fort Myers so hopefully can see you    
 and your sweetie..and my other cml buddies who live down south...chemo     
brain...forgive me!.
    


    
I have gone off everything...my BCR was good enough to take some time     to 
cleanse my body...was just too sick....will go back on in a few     
weeks...enjoying GRAPEFRUIT!!! for a couple of weeks!.
    


    
Love to all and a happy and healthy Thanksgiving to each and everyone     of 
you...
    


    
18's  and love, Beth


    
-----Original     Message-----
From: 'Susan Zimmerman' via CMLHope <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Oct 30, 2015     8:26 am
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day

    
    
Hi all,     


    
My bcr/abl results were not as great as I hoped.  Last time I was     
.012.....almost to zero.  This time I expected to be zero, but alas I     am up 
to .348.  So doc wants me to go to 300 mg bosulif, instead of 100     mg.  I am 
compromising and will go to 200 so I don't have to stay in     the bathroom all 
day.  I was ready to get a local test next time and     forego going to Chicago 
every 3 months.  Now she wants to see me in one     month after I up the dose.  
Ugh!  So thankful I do have a     wonderful doc even if I do decide myself on 
my dosage.  She does not     put me down about it, and supports me in every 
way. 
    


    
Beth, keeping my fingers crossed for you and saying a prayer.      Marty, you 
are so loved and hope your kidney stuff is getting better.      Your pics were 
beautiful.   

    
18's and blessings,
    
Susan Z
    



    
-----Original     Message-----
From: Marty Gartenberg <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Oct 29, 2015     10:11 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day

    
    
    
Yes since everything has been going on I had leave my home in     PA empty for 
nearly two years, but let me tell you something about that     crisp clean air 
and simply beautiful colors of all of the trees that you can     see for miles. 
An example is route 97 which separates upstate NY from PA     with the Delaware 
river in between them. Route 97 goes from Port Jervis all     the way down to 
past Hancock NY, and is considered the most scenic road it     the United 
States. Right near Port Jervis there is route 97 winding like a     snake on 
the edge of the road and is about 1,000 feet above the Delaware     River.     


    
I have driven in that area and I wouldn't ever drive on it in the snow     or 
at night. If by chance your ever there and I am in PA it is only right     
across the Robeling bridge which is actually a one lane wooden bridge only     
allowing one way of traffic then once it stops then the other way.      
    


    
I am wishing you well with your results.
    


    
Don't forget to let everyone know.
    


    
18's,
    


    
Marty
    


    


    

    
On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 6:31 PM, bkbarney via CMLHope     
<[email protected]> wrote:
    
Hi all,       


      
Just saying hi! Wanted you all to know that I am thinking of you and       
sending everyone a big hug and happy fall wishes... I know some of you       
southern folks..will enjoy your 90 degree Florida temperatures coming       
down...but us up north are enjoying the beauty of fall..it's cold today,       
but should be back up in the 60's by Sunday....Indian summer.....I just       
love it...
      


      
did BCR on Monday..waiting for results..then will decide plan for       next 
few months...
      


      
love, hugs and 18's to all, 
      


      


      
Beth


      
-----Original       Message-----
From: 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Oct 11, 2015       1:07 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day

      
      
      
Hi Beth 
      
I can never go off the meds either. My counts will shoot up       fast. 
      
Good luck
      
❤️

My Motto: Faith and Pills       
Jeanie 🐟🐟18,s        
Dx 1/2004. CML Leukemia
      
Started Gleevec 2/2004
      
Started Tasigna  9/2009
      
Started Sprycel 11/2009
      
Started Ponatinib January 2015
      
Dr Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center

      

On Oct 11, 2015, at 1:43 AM, bkbarney via CMLHope <[email protected]> 
wrote:


      
        
Dear Jeannie, Richard, Susan,         Marty, et al...thanks very much for 
responding to my question. I am         scared, but want to try something to 
help myself. We will see what         Dr.Druker has to say. In the mean time, 
what I do know, having been off         of sprycel for months at a time to deal 
with major surgeries several         times, is that I always come out of 
remission, and quickly. I don't hold         without the sprycel. Usually the 
cells are showing at very low numbers,         but it means that without the 
agent that keeps them in check, cancer         grows. I wish this were not so. 
And I know it's not for some lucky         folks. Maybe with time, this will 
change for me. For now I am developing         a plan..will keep you all 
posted.          


        
love and 18's Beth


        
-----Original         Message-----
From: Marty Gartenberg <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Oct 8, 2015         5:56 am
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day

        
        
        
Hi Jeannie, Beth, Richard as well as everyone on this site,         


        
I have a friend (not had a friend, and still have this friend) who         had 
CML a little while after I had my transplant. At the time there were         no 
TKI's but there were only two things available. One was a bone marrow         
transplant which was in it's infancy at the time and the other was Alpha        
 interferon but on an early study basis which actually was a blind study.       
  Depending on if those in this study would be receiving this Alpha         
Interferon or a placebo.
        


        
Even before my friend I had to chose the Interferon or         the placebo in 
this blind study. I spoke with a lot of         oncologists about what to do. 
However there were no concise answers         because on one hand there was 
something that was still in a blind study         and who would know if that 
would even be given to this patient or would         the BMT be the way to go?
        


        
However, since there were no matching donors, but one, his brother         who 
refused, and I could never understand that, but since there were no         
other choices he had no other choice but to try that blind study. Well         
he was lucky enough to be accepted. And I have to tell you that he         
really suffered some really bad side effects for years         afterwards. 
        


        
Eventually they were unable to detect any more CML, but he still         
refused to go off of the Alpha Interferon and I suppose this was a         
crutch in his life so he still remained on it for many years. So I guess        
 that he finally decided to go off of it. Once that happened his life         
took a dramatic turn. No more side effects and no more CML, and he is         
still alive and doing remarkably well today. 
        


        
As far as me, well my only choice was the BMT because of two         reasons. 
Since my white blood counts were at the time over 486,000 and         doubtful 
that I would survive, but basically the same thing with the BMT         but at 
least I had my sister as a donor who just happened to be a         perfect HLA 
match. So I tried the BMT, and it worked.
        


        
But yet there is still more to this story and some of you might         
remember Zavie Miller and all three of us used to get together, and         
called ourselves The Three Musketeers. This was well after Zavie got to         
know Dr. Druker and he was started on STI-571 which when approved by the        
 FDA turned into 
        
Gleevec. 
        


        
So after that we all turned into The Three Musketeers. All of this         is 
ancient   history but my point is that whether to go off or         continue on 
the TKI's because you may be actually "cured" of CML but you         may still 
hold the touch of the crutch. So you see that there are         different 
strokes for different people.
        


        
Fortunately I don't have to make the choice because I already did         and 
believe me I really did suffer, but in the end it was worth it.
        


        
Now knowing what I would do if my circumstances were different I         think 
that I would be off these TKI's and live my life, and if something         
happens then you will have to deal with it, and you will. Remember a         
crutch is a terrible thing to have.
        


        
I spend a lot of time trying to help, and your all very special         people 
to me as I am to you.
        


        
Those are my words of wisdom and please never forget what 18's         stands 
for. It is life yours and mine!
        


        
18's
        


        
Marty  
        


        


        
i 
        

        
On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:24 AM, Richard H <[email protected]> wrote:
        
          
Just a quick glimpse about a med break.  The end of           March when I went 
to the hospital with Vertigo, The short break I had           on medicine did 
wonders for me.  Found some I shouldn't have been           taking, stopped 
some all together.  I have felt so much better           that I would do it 
again under total control.  Worried? Yes, but           I realized afterwards 
it should have been done earlier.

Richard           H.  

On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 4:27:30 PM UTC-5,           Beth wrote:        
   

HI Jeannie and all, ...I am due             for BCR abl testing so should get 
it in the next two weeks, results             two weeks later...so I will 
update when I know more...Had a consult             today at the Block Center 
here in Illinois.People tend to love him             or hate him... I really 
like him. He thinks all my issues are             sprycel related. Thinks I 
should go off everything and have drug             holiday to give my 
autoimmune system a rest....steroids briefly to             try and lower cpk 
so I can move better without such a severe             boomerang effect.  Back 
issues are no worse. That's good news             from my end....since there 
have been several of my fellow warriors             here who have lost there 
remissions spontaneously after years of             successful treatment with 
their TKI's.  I am scared to go off,             unless I have to ...ie. like I 
did for past surgeries....however, I             am thinking about it...perhaps 
I am just too toxic, and time off             would help me to rebuild and 
repair, and tolerate better the TKI"s             when I re-uptake in the 
future......so I am sitting with this             decision..Not sure what I am 
going to do...except pray, and listen             to other's words of 
wisdom....I know if I ask Dr. Druker, he would             be fine with my 
taking a drug holiday..but I emailed             anyway......thoughts from my 
friends here????


Love and             18;s, Beth

            
-----Original             Message-----
            


            


            

From:             'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, Oct 7,             2015 12:59 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day

            
            
            
Hi Beth and how are you?? 
            
Would love to have an update on all.  Thanks!!             ❤️❤️

My Motto: Faith and Pills             
Jeanie 🐟🐟18,s              
Dx 1/2004. CML Leukemia
            
Started Gleevec 2/2004
            
Started Tasigna  9/2009
            
Started Sprycel 11/2009
            
Started Ponatinib January 2015
            
Dr Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center

            

On Oct 7, 2015, at 11:35 AM, bkbarney via CMLHope <[email protected]> 
wrote:


            
              
Dear Richard,               
Sounds like good news all the way around. Hope your counts               
continue to hold well and the November visit to the onc is a               
positive one! Your wife is healing well..slow and steady. Thanks               
for sharing the good news....Keeping you both in my thoughts and               
prayers. Beth
              



              
-----Original               Message-----
From: 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, Oct 7,               2015 9:26 am
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day

              
              
              
Hi Richard and happy you are better.  I hope your wife               will be 
home soon. 
              
Prayers always. 

My Motto: Faith and Pills               
Jeanie 🐟🐟18,s                
Dx 1/2004. CML Leukemia
              
Started Gleevec 2/2004
              
Started Tasigna  9/2009
              
Started Sprycel 11/2009
              
Started Ponatinib January 2015
              
Dr Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center

              

On Oct 7, 2015, at 12:01 AM, Richard H <[email protected]> wrote:


              
                
                
All is good at this house.  Saw                 Kidney Dr. and my tests have 
improved the last 3 times.                  Took my CBC and I am keeping my 
Hem. is holding at 10.  I                 hope it stays there until the end of 
Nov. when I visit my                 ONC.  

My wife is improving, and will see the Dr.                 Oct. 21st to see if 
she can start putting weight on the right                 side.  Shoulder seems 
to be healing nicely.  She has                 the healing knot on the shoulder 
and is feeding herself with her                 right hand and is raising the 
upper arm to almost shoulder                 height without pain.  We are 
hoping she can come home in                 Nov. when she can get out of the 
wheel chair and up and down                 without help.  Due to heart surgery 
and a pacemaker all I                 can due is call for help if she has a     
            problem.

18's

Richard H. 

                
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