like wise!!! Beth

-----Original Message-----
From: Myvety2k via CMLHope <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, Dec 2, 2015 1:59 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day



Beth, looking forward to meeting you.
 
greenie
 

In a message dated 12/2/2015 1:39:46 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[email protected] writes:
Greenie, give my regards to Grace...hope she   recoops easily..glad it was a 
"mini".....I will call you when I get in   ..probably the 13th..as travel day 
the day before is hard...looking forward to   meeting you and Grace..love, Beth


  
-----Original   Message-----
From: Myvety2k via CMLHope   <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope   <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, Nov 25, 2015 1:30   pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day

  
  
  
Hi Beth, Give me a call when you arrive in Fort Myers.    Cell phone is 
(219)973-8717.  Had my 4 month check up with my internist   yesterday 
everything O. K.. Blood O. K. but my creatinine was high again   1.57.  It's 
been between 1.2 and 1.6 going back to 1997 way before I   started Gleevec in 
the first week in Jan. 2000.
  
 
  
Grace had a mini stroke last month and doing O.K. which   kicked my heart into 
over drive and my skip a beat started up. Had a stress   test last week and 
passed that without a problem but they did put me on a 21   day monitor which 
is more fun then you can imagine.  Other wise I'm doing   just fine.
  
 
  
You all have a nice Thanksgiving,
  
 
  
Greenie
  
Fort Myers, FL.
  
 
  
Club member #48
  
 
  
 
  
  
In a message dated 11/25/2015 2:13:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[email protected]   writes:
  
thanks     Richard.... And happy Thanksgiving Day to everyone tomorrow.. I hope 
    everyone here finds themselves in a place that is peaceful and lifegiving   
  this holiday. I wish you all a feel good kind of day in every     way....

off sprycel for 2.5 weeks thus far.. initially felt a lot     better..but last 
couple of days..autoimmune...whatever is creeping in with     that deep fatigue 
in my muscles etc....doing detox..thanks for the advice     all..I am going to 
take some supplements I cannot take with sprycel in the     hopes of cleaning 
and calming my system...     


    
will keep you all posted..thinking of each and everyone here....
    


    
group     hug. Beth.
    
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard     H <[email protected]>
To:     CMLHope <[email protected]>
Sent:     Thu, Nov 19, 2015 10:47 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test     Day

    
    
    
great     news that you are getting a breather from the meds. I hope your 
counts stay     low enough you get a few MONTHS instead of weeks.  We are 
praying for     that.

Richard H.

On Thursday, November 19, 2015 at 7:27:26 PM     UTC-6, Beth wrote:     
Dear Susan,       


      
Concerned to hear your news...I know you wanted to hear better..It's       so 
hard when we hit an unexpected bump in the road....when are you coming       
back to see your doc? I am in town except for Dec. 12-19th...would love to      
 meet you this time. And Greenie....will be in Fort Myers so hopefully can      
 see you and your sweetie..and my other cml buddies who live down       
south...chemo brain...forgive me!.
      


      
I have gone off everything...my BCR was good enough to take some time       to 
cleanse my body...was just too sick....will go back on in a few       
weeks...enjoying GRAPEFRUIT!!! for a couple of weeks!.
      


      
Love to all and a happy and healthy Thanksgiving to each and everyone       of 
you...
      


      
18's  and love, Beth


      
-----Original Message-----
From: 'Susan Zimmerman' via       CMLHope <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Oct 30, 2015       8:26 am
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day

      
      
Hi all,       


      
My bcr/abl results were not as great as I hoped.  Last time I       was 
.012.....almost to zero.  This time I expected to be zero, but       alas I am 
up to .348.  So doc wants me to go to 300 mg bosulif,       instead of 100 mg.  
I am compromising and will go to 200 so I don't       have to stay in the 
bathroom all day.  I was ready to get a local       test next time and forego 
going to Chicago every 3 months.  Now she       wants to see me in one month 
after I up the dose.  Ugh!  So       thankful I do have a wonderful doc even if 
I do decide myself on my       dosage.  She does not put me down about it, and 
supports me in every       way. 
      


      
Beth, keeping my fingers crossed for you and saying a prayer.        Marty, you 
are so loved and hope your kidney stuff is getting       better.  Your pics 
were beautiful.   

      
18's and blessings,
      
Susan Z
      



      
-----Original       Message-----
From: Marty Gartenberg <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Oct 29, 2015       10:11 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day

      
      
      
Yes since everything has been going on I had leave my home in       PA empty 
for nearly two years, but let me tell you something about that       crisp 
clean air and simply beautiful colors of all of the trees that you       can 
see for miles. An example is route 97 which separates upstate NY from       PA 
with the Delaware river in between them. Route 97 goes from Port Jervis       
all the way down to past Hancock NY, and is considered the most scenic       
road it the United States. Right near Port Jervis there is route 97       
winding like a snake on the edge of the road and is about 1,000 feet above      
 the Delaware River.       


      
I have driven in that area and I wouldn't ever drive on it in the       snow or 
at night. If by chance your ever there and I am in PA it is only       right 
across the Robeling bridge which is actually a one lane wooden       bridge 
only allowing one way of traffic then once it stops then the other       way.  
      


      
I am wishing you well with your results.
      


      
Don't forget to let everyone know.
      


      
18's,
      


      
Marty
      


      


      

      
On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 6:31 PM, bkbarney via       CMLHope 
<[email protected]>       wrote:
      
Hi all,         


        
Just saying hi! Wanted you all to know that I am thinking of you         and 
sending everyone a big hug and happy fall wishes... I know some of         you 
southern folks..will enjoy your 90 degree Florida temperatures         coming 
down...but us up north are enjoying the beauty of fall..it's cold         
today, but should be back up in the 60's by Sunday....Indian         
summer.....I just love it...
        


        
did BCR on Monday..waiting for results..then will decide plan for         next 
few months...
        


        
love, hugs and 18's to all, 
        


        


        
Beth


        
-----Original         Message-----
From: 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Oct 11, 2015         1:07 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day

        
        
        
Hi Beth 
        
I can never go off the meds either. My counts will shoot up         fast. 
        
Good luck
        
❤️

My Motto: Faith and Pills         
Jeanie 🐟🐟18,s          
Dx 1/2004. CML Leukemia
        
Started Gleevec 2/2004
        
Started Tasigna  9/2009
        
Started Sprycel 11/2009
        
Started Ponatinib January 2015
        
Dr Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center

        

On Oct 11, 2015, at 1:43 AM, bkbarney via CMLHope <[email protected]> 
wrote:


        
          
Dear Jeannie, Richard, Susan,           Marty, et al...thanks very much for 
responding to my question. I am           scared, but want to try something to 
help myself. We will see what           Dr.Druker has to say. In the mean time, 
what I do know, having been           off of sprycel for months at a time to 
deal with major surgeries           several times, is that I always come out of 
remission, and quickly. I           don't hold without the sprycel. Usually the 
cells are showing at very           low numbers, but it means that without the 
agent that keeps them in           check, cancer grows. I wish this were not 
so. And I know it's not for           some lucky folks. Maybe with time, this 
will change for me. For now I           am developing a plan..will keep you all 
posted.            


          
love and 18's Beth


          
-----Original           Message-----
From: Marty Gartenberg <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Oct 8,           2015 5:56 am
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day

          
          
          
Hi Jeannie, Beth, Richard as well as everyone on this           site,           


          
I have a friend (not had a friend, and still have this friend)           who 
had CML a little while after I had my transplant. At the time           there 
were no TKI's but there were only two things available. One was           a 
bone marrow transplant which was in it's infancy at the time and the           
other was Alpha interferon but on an early study basis which actually           
was a blind study. Depending on if those in this study would be           
receiving this Alpha Interferon or a placebo.
          


          
Even before my friend I had to chose the Interferon or           the placebo in 
this blind study. I spoke with a lot of           oncologists about what to do. 
However there were no concise answers           because on one hand there was 
something that was still in a blind           study and who would know if that 
would even be given to this patient           or would the BMT be the way to go?
          


          
However, since there were no matching donors, but one, his           brother 
who refused, and I could never understand that, but since           there were 
no other choices he had no other choice but to try that           blind study. 
Well he was lucky enough to be accepted. And I have to           tell you that 
he really suffered some really bad side effects for           years afterwards. 
          


          
Eventually they were unable to detect any more CML, but he still           
refused to go off of the Alpha Interferon and I suppose this was a           
crutch in his life so he still remained on it for many years. So I           
guess that he finally decided to go off of it. Once that happened his           
life took a dramatic turn. No more side effects and no more CML, and           
he is still alive and doing remarkably well today. 
          


          
As far as me, well my only choice was the BMT because of two           reasons. 
Since my white blood counts were at the time over 486,000 and           
doubtful that I would survive, but basically the same thing with the           
BMT but at least I had my sister as a donor who just happened to be a           
perfect HLA match. So I tried the BMT, and it worked.
          


          
But yet there is still more to this story and some of you might           
remember Zavie Miller and all three of us used to get together, and           
called ourselves The Three Musketeers. This was well after Zavie got           
to know Dr. Druker and he was started on STI-571 which when approved           
by the FDA turned into 
          
Gleevec. 
          


          
So after that we all turned into The Three Musketeers. All of           this is 
ancient   history but my point is that whether to go off           or continue 
on the TKI's because you may be actually "cured" of CML           but you may 
still hold the touch of the crutch. So you see that there           are 
different strokes for different people.
          


          
Fortunately I don't have to make the choice because I already did           and 
believe me I really did suffer, but in the end it was worth           it.
          


          
Now knowing what I would do if my circumstances were different I           
think that I would be off these TKI's and live my life, and if           
something happens then you will have to deal with it, and you will.           
Remember a crutch is a terrible thing to have.
          


          
I spend a lot of time trying to help, and your all very special           
people to me as I am to you.
          


          
Those are my words of wisdom and please never forget what 18's           stands 
for. It is life yours and mine!
          


          
18's
          


          
Marty  
          


          


          
i 
          

          
On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:24 AM, Richard H           <[email protected]> wrote:
          
            
Just a quick glimpse about a med break.  The end             of March when I 
went to the hospital with Vertigo, The short break I             had on 
medicine did wonders for me.  Found some I shouldn't             have been 
taking, stopped some all together.  I have felt so             much better that 
I would do it again under total control.              Worried? Yes, but I 
realized afterwards it should have been done             earlier.

Richard H.  

On Wednesday, October 7,             2015 at 4:27:30 PM UTC-5, Beth wrote:      
       

HI Jeannie and all, ...I am due               for BCR abl testing so should get 
it in the next two weeks,               results two weeks later...so I will 
update when I know more...Had               a consult today at the Block Center 
here in Illinois.People tend               to love him or hate him... I really 
like him. He thinks all my               issues are sprycel related. Thinks I 
should go off everything and               have drug holiday to give my 
autoimmune system a rest....steroids               briefly to try and lower cpk 
so I can move better without such a               severe boomerang effect.  
Back issues are no worse. That's               good news from my end....since 
there have been several of my               fellow warriors here who have lost 
there remissions spontaneously               after years of successful 
treatment with their TKI's.  I am               scared to go off, unless I have 
to ...ie. like I did for past               surgeries....however, I am thinking 
about it...perhaps I am just               too toxic, and time off would help 
me to rebuild and repair, and               tolerate better the TKI"s when I 
re-uptake in the future......so I               am sitting with this 
decision..Not sure what I am going to               do...except pray, and 
listen to other's words of wisdom....I know               if I ask Dr. Druker, 
he would be fine with my taking a drug               holiday..but I emailed 
anyway......thoughts from my friends               here????


Love and 18;s, Beth

              
-----Original               Message-----
              


              


              

From:               'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, Oct 7,               2015 12:59 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day

              
              
              
Hi Beth and how are you?? 
              
Would love to have an update on all.  Thanks!!               ❤️❤️

My Motto: Faith and Pills               
Jeanie 🐟🐟18,s                
Dx 1/2004. CML Leukemia
              
Started Gleevec 2/2004
              
Started Tasigna  9/2009
              
Started Sprycel 11/2009
              
Started Ponatinib January 2015
              
Dr Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center

              

On Oct 7, 2015, at 11:35 AM, bkbarney via CMLHope <[email protected]> 
wrote:


              
                
Dear Richard,                 
Sounds like good news all the way around. Hope your counts                 
continue to hold well and the November visit to the onc is a                 
positive one! Your wife is healing well..slow and steady. Thanks                
 for sharing the good news....Keeping you both in my thoughts and               
  prayers. Beth
                



                
-----Original                 Message-----
From: 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope                 <[email protected]>
Sent:                 Wed, Oct 7, 2015 9:26 am
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test                 Day

                
                
                
Hi Richard and happy you are better.  I hope your wife                 will be 
home soon. 
                
Prayers always. 

My Motto: Faith and Pills                 
Jeanie 🐟🐟18,s                  
Dx 1/2004. CML Leukemia
                
Started Gleevec 2/2004
                
Started Tasigna  9/2009
                
Started Sprycel 11/2009
                
Started Ponatinib January 2015
                
Dr Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center

                

On Oct 7, 2015, at 12:01 AM, Richard H <[email protected]> wrote:


                
                  
                  
All is good at this house.  Saw                   Kidney Dr. and my tests have 
improved the last 3 times.                    Took my CBC and I am keeping my 
Hem. is holding at 10.  I                   hope it stays there until the end 
of Nov. when I visit my                   ONC.  

My wife is improving, and will see the Dr.                   Oct. 21st to see 
if she can start putting weight on the right                   side.  Shoulder 
seems to be healing nicely.  She has                   the healing knot on the 
shoulder and is feeding herself with                   her right hand and is 
raising the upper arm to almost shoulder                   height without pain. 
 We are hoping she can come home in                   Nov. when she can get out 
of the wheel chair and up and down                   without help.  Due to 
heart surgery and a pacemaker all I                   can due is call for help 
if she has a                   problem.

18's

Richard H. 

                  
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