Jeanie, thanks for your respond.
 
Have a Happy Turkey day.
 
greenie
 
 
In a message dated 11/25/2015 3:50:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[email protected] writes:

Happy Thanksgiving all
Greenie I have the same heart problem and high Creatine.   I just  had my 
visit with PCD and he said the skipped beat was what was causing the  
pounding in my right side at night. I don't notice it unless I'm trying to  
rest.  
BP was a little high. 
Sorry about Grace. I hope she is doing better. 
Turkey is defrosting and son will cook dinner tomorrow.  Eat drink  and be 
happy all 
❤️😇💋🎼





My Motto: Faith and Pills  
Jeanie 🐟🐟18,s   
Dx 1/2004. CML Leukemia
Started Gleevec 2/2004
Started Tasigna  9/2009
Started Sprycel 11/2009
Started Ponatinib January 2015
Dr Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center



On Nov 25, 2015, at 2:30 PM, Myvety2k via CMLHope 
<[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) >  wrote:



 
Hi Beth, Give me a call when you arrive in Fort  Myers.  Cell phone is 
(219)973-8717.  Had my 4 month check up with  my internist yesterday everything 
O. K.. Blood O. K. but my creatinine was  high again 1.57.  It's been 
between 1.2 and 1.6 going back to 1997 way  before I started Gleevec in the 
first 
week in Jan. 2000.
 
Grace had a mini stroke last month and doing O.K. which  kicked my heart 
into over drive and my skip a beat started up. Had a stress  test last week 
and passed that without a problem but they did put me on a 21  day monitor 
which is more fun then you can imagine.  Other wise I'm  doing just fine.
 
You all have a nice Thanksgiving,
 
Greenie
Fort Myers, FL.
 
Club member #48
 
 
 
In a message dated 11/25/2015 2:13:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])   writes:

thanks Richard.... And  happy Thanksgiving Day to everyone tomorrow.. I 
hope everyone here finds  themselves in a place that is peaceful and lifegiving 
this holiday. I wish  you all a feel good kind of day in every way....

off sprycel for  2.5 weeks thus far.. initially felt a lot better..but last 
couple of  days..autoimmune...whatever is creeping in with that deep 
fatigue in my  muscles etc....doing detox..thanks for the advice all..I am 
going 
to take  some supplements I cannot take with sprycel in the hopes of cleaning 
and  calming my system...  


will keep you all posted..thinking of each and everyone  here....


group hug. Beth.
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard H <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) >
To:  CMLHope <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) >
Sent:  Thu, Nov 19, 2015 10:47 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test  Day


 
great news that you are getting a breather from the meds. I  hope your 
counts stay low enough you get a few MONTHS instead of  weeks.  We are praying 
for that.

Richard H.

On  Thursday, November 19, 2015 at 7:27:26 PM UTC-6, Beth wrote:  
Dear Susan,  


Concerned to hear your news...I know you wanted to hear  better..It's so 
hard when we hit an unexpected bump in the road....when  are you coming back 
to see your doc? I am in town except for Dec.  12-19th...would love to meet 
you this time. And Greenie....will be in  Fort Myers so hopefully can see you 
and your sweetie..and my other cml  buddies who live down south...chemo 
brain...forgive me!.


I have gone off everything...my BCR was good enough to take some  time to 
cleanse my body...was just too sick....will go back on in a few  
weeks...enjoying GRAPEFRUIT!!! for a couple of weeks!.


Love to all and a happy and healthy Thanksgiving to each and  everyone of 
you...


18's  and love, Beth


-----Original Message-----
From: 'Susan Zimmerman' via  CMLHope <[email protected]_ 
(about:blank) >
To: cmlhope <[email protected]_ (about:blank) >
Sent: Fri, Oct 30, 2015  8:26 am
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day


Hi all,  


My bcr/abl results were not as great as I hoped.  Last time I  was 
.012.....almost to zero.  This time I expected to be zero, but  alas I am up to 
.348.  So doc wants me to go to 300 mg bosulif,  instead of 100 mg.  I am 
compromising and will go to 200 so I don't  have to stay in the bathroom all 
day.  
I was ready to get a local  test next time and forego going to Chicago 
every 3 months.  Now she  wants to see me in one month after I up the dose.  
Ugh!  So  thankful I do have a wonderful doc even if I do decide myself on my  
dosage.  She does not put me down about it, and supports me in  every way. 


Beth, keeping my fingers crossed for you and saying a prayer.  Marty, you 
are so loved and hope your kidney stuff is getting  better.  Your pics were 
beautiful.   

18's and blessings,
Susan Z




-----Original  Message-----
From: Marty Gartenberg <[email protected]_ (about:blank) >
To: cmlhope <[email protected]_ (about:blank) >
Sent: Thu, Oct 29, 2015  10:11 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day


 
Yes since everything has been going on I had leave my home  in PA empty for 
nearly two years, but let me tell you something about  that crisp clean air 
and simply beautiful colors of all of the trees  that you can see for 
miles. An example is route 97 which separates  upstate NY from PA with the 
Delaware river in between them. Route 97  goes from Port Jervis all the way 
down 
to past Hancock NY, and is  considered the most scenic road it the United 
States. Right near Port  Jervis there is route 97 winding like a snake on the 
edge of the road  and is about 1,000 feet above the Delaware River.  


I have driven in that area and I wouldn't ever drive on it in the  snow or 
at night. If by chance your ever there and I am in PA it is only  right 
across the Robeling bridge which is actually a one lane wooden  bridge only 
allowing one way of traffic then once it stops then the  other way.  


I am wishing you well with your results.


Don't forget to let everyone know.


18's,


Marty






On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 6:31 PM, bkbarney via  CMLHope 
<[email protected]_ (about:blank) >  wrote:

Hi all,  


Just saying hi! Wanted you all to know that I am thinking of you  and 
sending everyone a big hug and happy fall wishes... I know some of  you 
southern 
folks..will enjoy your 90 degree Florida temperatures  coming down...but us 
up north are enjoying the beauty of fall..it's  cold today, but should be 
back up in the 60's by Sunday....Indian  summer.....I just love it...


did BCR on Monday..waiting for results..then will decide plan for  next few 
months...


love, hugs and 18's to all, 




Beth


-----Original  Message-----
From: 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope <[email protected]_ (about:blank) >
To: cmlhope <[email protected]_ (about:blank) >
Sent: Sun, Oct 11,  2015 1:07 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day


 
Hi Beth 
I can never go off the meds either. My counts will shoot up  fast. 
Good luck
❤️

My Motto: Faith and Pills  
Jeanie 🐟🐟18,s   
Dx 1/2004. CML Leukemia
Started Gleevec 2/2004
Started Tasigna  9/2009
Started Sprycel 11/2009
Started Ponatinib January 2015
Dr Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center



On Oct 11, 2015, at 1:43 AM, bkbarney via CMLHope 
<[email protected]_ (about:blank) > wrote:



Dear Jeannie, Richard,  Susan, Marty, et al...thanks very much for 
responding to my  question. I am scared, but want to try something to help 
myself. 
We  will see what Dr.Druker has to say. In the mean time, what I do  know, 
having been off of sprycel for months at a time to deal with  major surgeries 
several times, is that I always come out of  remission, and quickly. I don't 
hold without the sprycel. Usually  the cells are showing at very low 
numbers, but it means that without  the agent that keeps them in check, cancer 
grows. I wish this were  not so. And I know it's not for some lucky folks. 
Maybe with time,  this will change for me. For now I am developing a plan..will 
keep  you all posted.   


love and 18's Beth


-----Original  Message-----
From: Marty Gartenberg <[email protected]_ (about:blank) >
To: cmlhope <[email protected]_ (about:blank) >
Sent: Thu, Oct 8,  2015 5:56 am
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day


 
Hi Jeannie, Beth, Richard as well as everyone on this  site,  


I have a friend (not had a friend, and still have this friend)  who had CML 
a little while after I had my transplant. At the time  there were no TKI's 
but there were only two things available. One  was a bone marrow transplant 
which was in it's infancy at the time  and the other was Alpha interferon 
but on an early study basis which  actually was a blind study. Depending on if 
those in this study  would be receiving this Alpha Interferon or a placebo.


Even before my friend I had to chose the Interferon or  the placebo in this 
blind study. I spoke with a lot  of oncologists about what to do. However 
there were no concise  answers because on one hand there was something that 
was still in a  blind study and who would know if that would even be given to 
this  patient or would the BMT be the way to go?


However, since there were no matching donors, but one, his  brother who 
refused, and I could never understand that, but since  there were no other 
choices he had no other choice but to try that  blind study. Well he was lucky 
enough to be accepted. And I have to  tell you that he really suffered some 
really bad side effects for  years afterwards. 


Eventually they were unable to detect any more CML, but he  still refused 
to go off of the Alpha Interferon and I suppose this  was a crutch in his 
life so he still remained on it for many years.  So I guess that he finally 
decided to go off of it. Once that  happened his life took a dramatic turn. No 
more side effects and no  more CML, and he is still alive and doing 
remarkably well  today. 


As far as me, well my only choice was the BMT because of two  reasons. 
Since my white blood counts were at the time over 486,000  and doubtful that I 
would survive, but basically the same thing with  the BMT but at least I had 
my sister as a donor who just happened to  be a perfect HLA match. So I 
tried the BMT, and it worked.


But yet there is still more to this story and some of you might  remember 
Zavie Miller and all three of us used to get together, and  called ourselves 
The Three Musketeers. This was well after Zavie got  to know Dr. Druker and 
he was started on STI-571 which when approved  by the FDA turned into 
Gleevec. 


So after that we all turned into The Three Musketeers. All of  this is 
ancient   history but my point is that whether to go  off or continue on the 
TKI's because you may be actually "cured" of  CML but you may still hold the 
touch of the crutch. So you see that  there are different strokes for 
different people.


Fortunately I don't have to make the choice because I already  did and 
believe me I really did suffer, but in the end it was worth  it.


Now knowing what I would do if my circumstances were different  I think 
that I would be off these TKI's and live my life, and if  something happens 
then you will have to deal with it, and you will.  Remember a crutch is a 
terrible thing to have.


I spend a lot of time trying to help, and your all very special  people to 
me as I am to you.


Those are my words of wisdom and please never forget what 18's  stands for. 
It is life yours and mine!


18's


Marty  




i 


On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:24 AM, Richard H  <[email protected]_ 
(about:blank) >  wrote:

Just a quick glimpse about a med break.  The end  of March when I went to 
the hospital with Vertigo, The short break  I had on medicine did wonders for 
me.  Found some I shouldn't  have been taking, stopped some all together.  
I have felt so  much better that I would do it again under total control.   
Worried? Yes, but I realized afterwards it should have been done  earlier.

Richard H.  

On Wednesday, October 7,  2015 at 4:27:30 PM UTC-5, Beth wrote:  

HI Jeannie and all, ...I am  due for BCR abl testing so should get it in 
the next two weeks,  results two weeks later...so I will update when I know  
more...Had a consult today at the Block Center here in  Illinois.People tend 
to love him or hate him... I really like  him. He thinks all my issues are 
sprycel related. Thinks I  should go off everything and have drug holiday to 
give my  autoimmune system a rest....steroids briefly to try and lower  cpk 
so I can move better without such a severe boomerang  effect.  Back issues 
are no worse. That's good news from my  end....since there have been several 
of my fellow warriors here  who have lost there remissions spontaneously 
after years of  successful treatment with their TKI's.  I am scared to go  off, 
unless I have to ...ie. like I did for past  surgeries....however, I am 
thinking about it...perhaps I am just  too toxic, and time off would help me to 
rebuild and repair, and  tolerate better the TKI"s when I re-uptake in the 
future......so  I am sitting with this decision..Not sure what I am going to 
 do...except pray, and listen to other's words of wisdom....I  know if I 
ask Dr. Druker, he would be fine with my taking a drug  holiday..but I emailed 
anyway......thoughts from my friends  here????


Love and 18;s, Beth

-----Original  Message-----





From:  'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope  <[email protected]>
Sent:  Wed, Oct 7, 2015 12:59 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test  Day


 
Hi Beth and how are you?? 
Would love to have an update on all.  Thanks!!  ❤️❤️

My Motto: Faith and Pills  
Jeanie 🐟🐟18,s   
Dx 1/2004. CML Leukemia
Started Gleevec 2/2004
Started Tasigna  9/2009
Started Sprycel 11/2009
Started Ponatinib January 2015
Dr Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center



On Oct 7, 2015, at 11:35 AM, bkbarney via CMLHope  
<[email protected]>  wrote:



Dear Richard,  
Sounds like good news all the way around. Hope your  counts continue to 
hold well and the November visit to the onc  is a positive one! Your wife is 
healing well..slow and steady.  Thanks for sharing the good news....Keeping 
you both in my  thoughts and prayers. Beth



-----Original  Message-----
From: 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope  <[email protected]>
Sent:  Wed, Oct 7, 2015 9:26 am
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test  Day


 
Hi Richard and happy you are better.  I hope your  wife will be home soon. 
Prayers always. 

My Motto: Faith and Pills  
Jeanie 🐟🐟18,s   
Dx 1/2004. CML Leukemia
Started Gleevec 2/2004
Started Tasigna  9/2009
Started Sprycel 11/2009
Started Ponatinib January 2015
Dr Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center



On Oct 7, 2015, at 12:01 AM, Richard H <[email protected]> wrote:




All is good at this house.   Saw Kidney Dr. and my tests have improved the 
last 3  times.  Took my CBC and I am keeping my Hem. is holding  at 10.  I 
hope it stays there until the end of Nov.  when I visit my ONC.  

My wife is improving, and  will see the Dr. Oct. 21st to see if she can 
start putting  weight on the right side.  Shoulder seems to be healing  nicely. 
 She has the healing knot on the shoulder and  is feeding herself with her 
right hand and is raising the  upper arm to almost shoulder height without 
pain.  We  are hoping she can come home in Nov. when she can get out of  the 
wheel chair and up and down without help.  Due to  heart surgery and a 
pacemaker all I can due is call for help  if she has a problem.

18's

Richard H.  


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