Its interesting to see that many on this list think that its not correct to
base a CMS implementation on typical application development phases.

Typically we see CMS implementation as

1. Content Development
2. Content Production
3. Content Delivery

Here is a white paper from Rational site
( http://www.rational.com/products/whitepapers/content_management.jsp ) that
maps these three phases to Rational unified process. The end result is,
there are activities to be carried out in each of the above mentioned areas
that have been mapped to Project phases i.e. Inception, Elaboration,
Construction and Transition (which incorporate consulting phase, development
phase, implementation phase, testing phase etc. in some flavor)

While there can be some deviations here and there, I do over all agree with
the above approach. One may not require to carryout all the activities,
depending on the scope of the CMS, but for  medium to large implementation
this definitely sounds valid. Coming from an application development
background I find it hard to imagine how else I would be able get a handle
on the project. Even if I consider that the CMS project as pure integration
(assuming that all the functionalities are out of the box ) I would need to
be able to break my project in to various activities, place them on the time
line and then start the project.

What do you think ?

Apart from comments on the white paper, it will be helpful if others post
their methodologies/approaches to CMS implementation with example.


Regards

Rakesh





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It only came across to me that you probably wanted to include the sales
scheduled time within the implementation schedule which I've not for
obvious reasons.

For the scheduled time for a sales can be varies from 1 to 8 months, but
I concur with Lennard Regebro that in normal conditions can go at most
to 5 months. I'm including the slack phase here just because a sales IMO
is done when at least the customer has paid 0.5 of the overall project
cost (product + consulting) and that rarely happens before the project
actually starts.

As a safe guard, inline with Lennard Regebro I'm estimating passed time
not man/work hours.

Nevertheless this is still vague because I'm not including human
resources, location etc, etc. But I believe that I can rely on this at
least as a priori estimate.

Barton wrote:
> consulting phase, development phase, implementation phase, testing
> phase

Lennart wrote:

>I think it's a mistake to split the implementation into these phases.

I also concur with Lennart on this one. This could most probably result
in a disaster if stages and estimates were done and serialized in this
manner for projects that are more then simple. Nevertheless this is
something that appears quite often in vendor/consultant proposals
irrespective of CM project complexity.

Best regards,

Nuno Lopes
Independent Consultant.

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