Dennis,

Thanks for the flashback to the *USS Buttercup*!  One of my favorite
training exercises right there after fire fighting and the tear gas house.

Pat

On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 9:25 PM, Dennis C. <[email protected]> wrote:

> Joel,
>
> Just my opinion but first, most of your boat isn't 3 feet below the
> waterline.  Second, the hole probably won't be a full 2 inches open but a
> jagged splintered opening.  Third, go buy 3 or 4 toilet bowl wax rings and
> throw them on the boat.  They'll plug a lot of oddly shaped holes.  Wad
> them up and jam them in the hole, smash them in really good.
>
> Third, slowing down the flow of a hole isn't terribly difficult.  Place a
> life jacket, pillow or whatever is handy over the hole and brace it with
> more "stuff".  Maybe keep an inflatable dinghy flotation bag on board to
> press the seal against the hull.  Spend some time thinking about how you
> would patch a hole here or there or over there.  Many of us Navy vets went
> through damage control training.  The training was real.  We were placed in
> a training mock up where water poured in through various holes of different
> shapes and locations.  You'd be surprised at how quickly you get creative
> when you're getting inundated with hundreds (not 69).  :)
>
> If you can't slow the flow down substantially, a larger bilge pump isn't
> going to save you.  Put your boat bucks in a good DSC distress capable VHF
> radio.
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* Joel Aronson <[email protected]>
> *To:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Sunday, December 2, 2012 7:59 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 35/3 bilge pump
>
> Lee, if he is right
> Note that a mere 2-inch-diameter hole 3 feet below the waterline will let
> in 69 gallons a minute, or more than 4,000 gallons an hour.
>
> and my pump is 4 gpm and I use both manual pumps I'm still screwed!
> Joel
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Dec 2, 2012, at 7:54 PM, Lee Youngblood <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Joel,
>
> Your job is not to need it!  Read John Vigors blog from November 27, 2012
> How fast will you sink?   http://www.johnvigor.com/Blog.html
>
> Sometimes I think pumps are like "psychological placements" when rock
> climbing, you put them in when you can, and it helps to think you tried,
> but you know it won't stop you if you fall.  I zippered six or eith pitons
> in the old days, and was saved by my partner.  I landed on top of him, and
> he was hurt a lot more than me.  Oops.
>
> Usually color of the pump doesn't matter, just get the biggest one that
> will fit, and install well.
>
> Good Luck, Lee
> sv Simplicity
> A 1974 C&C 35-II in Seattle rain.
>
>
> Joel,
>
>
> I bought one of these (I haven't fitted it yet) it has a built in
> electronic float switch and will fit between my keel bolts.
>
>
> http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1%7C51%7C299222%7C84462%7C316440&id=1579952
>
> If anyone else has one working I'd be interested if it was an OK choice!
>
>
> sam :-)
>
> C&C 26  Liquorice
>
> Ghost Lake  Alberta
>
>
> On 2012-12-02, at 4:32 PM, Joel Aronson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>  The bilge pump on my 35/3 is under the forward dinette seat.  A hose
>
>  leads to a strainer in the forward sump just behind the mast.  I'd
>
> like to replace it with a higher volume pump, but I can't find one
>
> that will fit in the bilge compartment next to the keel bolt without
>
>  spending ridiculous amounts of money.  Any recommendations?
>
>
>  Joel
>
> 35/3
>
> The Office
>
>  > Annapolis
>
>
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