Heard this method discussed using the headsail, but the lifelines would be a 
hurdle either way. It would be a chore for me to undo the mainsail exit plate 
and release the slides and have all that mess. But nice to consider other 
options. I have a 45 degree sloped transom, so I considered using a SUP as a 
rescue device; drag the victim onto the board and drag the board over the 
transom into the cockpit. 

Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 C&C 34R 
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md 

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From: "Rick Brass via CnC-List" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Cc: "Rick Brass" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:50:04 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Reboarding - was Re: - Inflable life jacket - inflation 



One of the MOB recovery options that used to be discussed in US Power Squadron 
safe boating courses – particularly for a MOB who might be less than mobile – 
was to let your mainsail out of the track and put it over the rail with head, 
tack, and clew still attached, and then use the halyard to hoist the sail and 
bring the MOB on board in the resulting sling. I could see where it avoids 
stress on the MOB and allows you to bring him down to the deck gently. And 
there is no extra gear needed. 



Rick Brass 

Washington, NC 








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Bodnar via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 9:53 PM 
To: [email protected] 
Cc: Dr. Mark Bodnar <[email protected]> 
Subject: Stus-List Reboarding - was Re: - Inflable life jacket - inflation 





I've read a lot about people being unable to climb back aboard a boat (never 
experienced the issue on anything bigger than an Albacore). 
One recommendation I'm looking to try - a triangular section of fabric (I'm 
thinking the head off an old jib) - shackle the bottom corners to the toe rail 
and attach the head to a halyard 
Get the overboard crew to lay in the hollow of the sail as it bags down and 
then winch the halyard. 
You automatically get a 2-1 advantage by pulling up only one end in addition to 
using gear that is already set on the boat. Plus the person is already lying 
down in the sail and will roll right back in under the lifelines rather than 
having to winch them up overtop. 



I think my current jib is ready to retire - and maybe this is a perfect use for 
the head of the sail. 



Interested to hear thoughts from people who have actually tried different 
techniques. I've yet to do MOB drills - it's in the plan, but never seems to 
fit the day. 



Mark 




There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. 
- George Santayana 


On 2015-09-17 5:31 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List wrote: 




I did a safety at sea course, which involved spending some quality time in the 
pool wearing full gear and my PFD (inflated). I found it difficult to maneuver 
with it fully inflated, but could let some out and was able to do the required 
stuff (swim, climb into the liferaft) with it on. For me a crotch strap add-on 
does make it easier as it keeps things lower, I tried it both ways. 



As for re-boarding, a ladder isn't much good if it does not get a couple of 
rungs under water - not many of us can lift our body weight and wet gear up 
with our arms, when already exhausted. We also bought a lifesling and have 
tackle ready in case someone has to be hoisted aboard. 

Graham Collins 
Secret Plans 
C&C 35-III #11 


On 2015-09-17 2:53 PM, Jim Reinardy via CnC-List wrote: 

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This is a bit of a tangent, but I wanted to get some feedback on a recent event 
in our marina that has a lot of us talking. 



We have some friends that own a cruising boat. The wife has been a little 
hesitant about sailing in part because of poor swimming ability causing a 
general fear of water. She decided to confront her fears head on by 
volunteering to do a live person overboard drill. We got a bunch of people on 
board their boat and enlisted a smaller boat as a chase boat. She put on an 
inflatable life jacket with an expiring sensor and jumped in the water in the 
harbor. It was at the end of a stretch of hot weather so there were fewer fears 
about hypothermia and the waves were negligible, which is as good as it gets 
for Lake Michigan. 



The PFD inflated immediately and brought her to the surface just fine, but she 
found that the inflated bladder pretty much immobilized her. She could not lift 
her head properly or move her arms to maneuver to the throwables in the water. 
One of the people in the chase boat ultimately jumped in to get her over to her 
boat and we got her back up on deck, but it was a more tense process than any 
of us expected. Our friend confronting her fears was actually satisfied with 
the result, she was able to remain calm and ultimately got back on the boat 
without injury, but it raised some doubts about inflatable PFD’s with the rest 
of us. 



Anyone have experience with actually deploying an inflatable PFD? Were you able 
to maneuver? Did you need to partially deflate the bladder? 



As a side note, we have gone looking for a good quality non-inflatable PFD with 
a harness and crotch strap, which is becoming a requirement for some races now 
and pretty much came up empty at this point. 



Thanks, 



Jim Reinardy 

C&C 30-2 “Firewater” 

Milwaukee, WI 





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From: Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 5:08 PM 
To: [email protected] 
Cc: Kevin Driscoll 
Subject: Re: Stus-List - Inflable life jacket with harness recommendation 







My Kong tether has snap shackle for self eject. 





On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 11:53 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List < 
[email protected] > wrote: 

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don't forget to sign up for the PYacht email list before you place your order 
and they'll give a 5% off code on a purchase over $100 





five bucks is five bucks! 






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From: Indigo via CnC-List < [email protected] > 
To: " [email protected] " < [email protected] > 
Cc: Indigo < [email protected] > 
Subject: Re: Stus-List - Inflable life jacket with harness recommendation 


Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 08:28:37 -0400 


I don't recall - one of the early posts on the subject. At the price of these 
at pyacht I might be tempted to replace my "spare" old style tethers. 


-- 


Jonathan 


Indigo C&C 35III 


SOUTHPORT CT 



On Sep 16, 2015, at 08:03, Frederick G Street via CnC-List < 
[email protected] > wrote: 

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Mine does. Which one are you looking at? I’ve got the “Y” tether with one 
six-foot leg and one three-foot leg; both of those have the positive-action 
carabiners. The harness end has a snap shackle with a pull-lanyard. Like this: 
http://www.pyacht.com/cgi-bin/pagegen.pl?pr+kng283sete.htm 





— Fred 


Fred Street -- Minneapolis 
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI 




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On Sep 15, 2015, at 10:29 PM, Indigo via CnC-List < [email protected] > 
wrote: 


I am surprised to see that the Kong tether as illustrated does not have a 
snap-shackle for use at the harness end to enable quick disconnect if needed. 
With any tension, you'd need to cut the tether in order to get free if you 
were, say, trapped under water. 




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