I have been watching this discussion with interest. Although every boat / condition is different, in my case, I need to find a way that my diminutive wife can use to recover me, should I end up in the water. She can't reach the main headboard so that discounts use of the main halyard. My spare jib halyard already has a snap shackle - easy to attach to my harness or lifesling - or to the outboard end of a triangular piece of sail (old jib) cut and fitted with cringles for easy attachment to the toe rail.
I see two potential issues that I need to resolve / check out - a) making sure the bitter end of the halyard will reach the primary self tailers and will have a good lead so as to avoid overrides and b) deciding whether the triangle of sail should pass over the top lifeline (I'd be dumped unceremoniously on the deck) or not - I'd be squeezed between the toe rail and the lower lifeline. -- Jonathan Indigo C&C 35III SOUTHPORT CT > On Sep 20, 2015, at 21:02, Chuck S via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Heard this method discussed using the headsail, but the lifelines would be a > hurdle either way. It would be a chore for me to undo the mainsail exit > plate and release the slides and have all that mess. But nice to consider > other options. I have a 45 degree sloped transom, so I considered using a > SUP as a rescue device; drag the victim onto the board and drag the board > over the transom into the cockpit. > > Chuck > Resolute > 1990 C&C 34R > Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md > > From: "Rick Brass via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: "Rick Brass" <rickbr...@earthlink.net> > Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:50:04 PM > Subject: Re: Stus-List Reboarding - was Re: - Inflable life jacket - > inflation > > One of the MOB recovery options that used to be discussed in US Power > Squadron safe boating courses – particularly for a MOB who might be less than > mobile – was to let your mainsail out of the track and put it over the rail > with head, tack, and clew still attached, and then use the halyard to hoist > the sail and bring the MOB on board in the resulting sling. I could see where > it avoids stress on the MOB and allows you to bring him down to the deck > gently. And there is no extra gear needed. > > Rick Brass > Washington, NC > > > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dr. Mark > Bodnar via CnC-List > Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 9:53 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Dr. Mark Bodnar <drbod...@accesswave.ca> > Subject: Stus-List Reboarding - was Re: - Inflable life jacket - inflation > > > I've read a lot about people being unable to climb back aboard a boat (never > experienced the issue on anything bigger than an Albacore). > One recommendation I'm looking to try - a triangular section of fabric (I'm > thinking the head off an old jib) - shackle the bottom corners to the toe > rail and attach the head to a halyard > Get the overboard crew to lay in the hollow of the sail as it bags down and > then winch the halyard. > You automatically get a 2-1 advantage by pulling up only one end in addition > to using gear that is already set on the boat. Plus the person is already > lying down in the sail and will roll right back in under the lifelines rather > than having to winch them up overtop. > > I think my current jib is ready to retire - and maybe this is a perfect use > for the head of the sail. > > Interested to hear thoughts from people who have actually tried different > techniques. I've yet to do MOB drills - it's in the plan, but never seems to > fit the day. > > Mark > > > > > There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. > - George Santayana > On 2015-09-17 5:31 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List wrote: > I did a safety at sea course, which involved spending some quality time in > the pool wearing full gear and my PFD (inflated). I found it difficult to > maneuver with it fully inflated, but could let some out and was able to do > the required stuff (swim, climb into the liferaft) with it on. For me a > crotch strap add-on does make it easier as it keeps things lower, I tried it > both ways. > > As for re-boarding, a ladder isn't much good if it does not get a couple of > rungs under water - not many of us can lift our body weight and wet gear up > with our arms, when already exhausted. We also bought a lifesling and have > tackle ready in case someone has to be hoisted aboard. > > Graham Collins > Secret Plans > C&C 35-III #11 > On 2015-09-17 2:53 PM, Jim Reinardy via CnC-List wrote: > This is a bit of a tangent, but I wanted to get some feedback on a recent > event in our marina that has a lot of us talking. > > We have some friends that own a cruising boat. The wife has been a little > hesitant about sailing in part because of poor swimming ability causing a > general fear of water. She decided to confront her fears head on by > volunteering to do a live person overboard drill. We got a bunch of people > on board their boat and enlisted a smaller boat as a chase boat. She put on > an inflatable life jacket with an expiring sensor and jumped in the water in > the harbor. It was at the end of a stretch of hot weather so there were > fewer fears about hypothermia and the waves were negligible, which is as good > as it gets for Lake Michigan. > > The PFD inflated immediately and brought her to the surface just fine, but > she found that the inflated bladder pretty much immobilized her. She could > not lift her head properly or move her arms to maneuver to the throwables in > the water. One of the people in the chase boat ultimately jumped in to get > her over to her boat and we got her back up on deck, but it was a more tense > process than any of us expected. Our friend confronting her fears was > actually satisfied with the result, she was able to remain calm and > ultimately got back on the boat without injury, but it raised some doubts > about inflatable PFD’s with the rest of us. > > Anyone have experience with actually deploying an inflatable PFD? Were you > able to maneuver? Did you need to partially deflate the bladder? > > As a side note, we have gone looking for a good quality non-inflatable PFD > with a harness and crotch strap, which is becoming a requirement for some > races now and pretty much came up empty at this point. > > Thanks, > > Jim Reinardy > C&C 30-2 “Firewater” > Milwaukee, WI > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > > > From: Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 5:08 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Kevin Driscoll > Subject: Re: Stus-List - Inflable life jacket with harness recommendation > > > My Kong tether has snap shackle for self eject. > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 11:53 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > don't forget to sign up for the PYacht email list before you place your order > and they'll give a 5% off code on a purchase over $100 > > five bucks is five bucks! > > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: Indigo via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: Indigo <ind...@thethomsons.us> > Subject: Re: Stus-List - Inflable life jacket with harness recommendation > Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 08:28:37 -0400 > > I don't recall - one of the early posts on the subject. At the price of these > at pyacht I might be tempted to replace my "spare" old style tethers. > > -- > Jonathan > Indigo C&C 35III > SOUTHPORT CT > > On Sep 16, 2015, at 08:03, Frederick G Street via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Mine does. Which one are you looking at? I’ve got the “Y” tether with one > six-foot leg and one three-foot leg; both of those have the positive-action > carabiners. The harness end has a snap shackle with a pull-lanyard. Like > this: http://www.pyacht.com/cgi-bin/pagegen.pl?pr+kng283sete.htm > > — Fred > Fred Street -- Minneapolis > S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI > > On Sep 15, 2015, at 10:29 PM, Indigo via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: > I am surprised to see that the Kong tether as illustrated does not have a > snap-shackle for use at the harness end to enable quick disconnect if needed. > With any tension, you'd need to cut the tether in order to get free if you > were, say, trapped under water. > _______________________________________________ > > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom > of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > _______________________________________________ > > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom > of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom > of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom > of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom > of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom > of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >
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