Dennis, I know. I should have displayed my sarcasm emoji…. ;-)
Anyway, I think y’all are doin' it wrong. To keep that beautiful clear gloss varnish on your woodwork you just need to spend $7,500.00 on a shed to stick your boats in for quite a few (many) sailing seasons. See? Sarcasm! ;-) Cheers, Dave Godwin 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin Reedville - Chesapeake Bay Ronin’s Overdue Refit <http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/> > On Feb 9, 2018, at 11:43 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Dave, > > You're not an unwanted guest. I actually agree with your opinion to some > degree. I was walking piers one day and saw a Pearson 365 that belonged to a > local sailmaker. The varnished teak toe rails looked amazing. I asked him > how many coats of varnish. Answer: 23. > > I varnished the teak grate in Touche's head a few years back. Applied in > excess of 15 coats, probably more than 20. Sanding between each coat. It > looks really good. > > Philosophically, I liken the Cetol vs varnish decision to that of Awlgrip vs > Awlcraft 2000. Awlgrip is harder, probably looks better longer but is harder > to apply and repair. > > For me, the difference is in the sanding between coats. If you want really > great varnish, you need to diligently sand between coats. Cetol does not > require sanding between coats. Apllying a filler to the bare teak prior to > varnish is another difference. > > Interested in results and experiences with Awlwood. > > Dennis C. > Touche' 35-1 #83 > Mandeville, LA > > On Feb 9, 2018 9:11 AM, "Dave Godwin via CnC-List" <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Consider me the unwanted guest at the party on this thread but I won’t use > Cetol. A few reasons. Years ago I redid all the teak trim on my Mako 261. > Fortunately the teak was just aged out. No prior coating that I could > determine. I sanded to bright, applied base coats of light Cetol and then > several coats of their Gloss. It looked okay, but not nearly as nice as a > good varnish job. I figured I could live with that if the maintenance was > substantially less than varnish. > > It didn’t turn out that way. Yes, the Cetol lasted a bit longer than varnish > but not enough to overcome the “look” that IMHO was not as smooth and deep as > varnish. > > Although I haven’t subjected my exterior teak trim on “Ronin” to the outdoors > yet, everything that I have re-varnished, cabin sole included, has been done > with AwlWood. Just from an ease of application (5/6 coats versus 8-10 for > regular varnish) and the deep, clear look it is worth it. > > As an aside, I have a friend with a Tartan 37 who ponied up $4,000 last year > to have a professional crew redo all his exterior teak with Cetol. I watched > the process being done in the yard near my boat. It took every bit as much > time as a varnish job. Yesterday I was on his boat checking it out for him > and I was noting the quality of the finish. Very good but nowhere near as > nice as a well done varnish job. > > And being the contrarian that I can be, next time I have to apply AwlWood, > I’ll spray. > > Best, > Dave Godwin > 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin > Reedville - Chesapeake Bay > Ronin’s Overdue Refit <http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/> > >> On Feb 9, 2018, at 9:10 AM, David via CnC-List <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> So those using Cetol and putting gloss as the last two coats. Is that for >> looks? Hardness? Both? >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> David F. Risch >> (401) 419-4650 <tel:(401)%20419-4650> (cell) >> >> >> From: CnC-List <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Dennis C. via CnC-List >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 2:18 PM >> To: CnClist >> Cc: Dennis C. >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak >> >> I used teak oil on the toe rails of my previous boat. I religiously oiled >> them every few months. After a few months, they looked like crap. >> >> On Touche' I use Cetol. Five coats Cetol Marine followed by three coats >> Cetol Gloss. Then a coat of Cetol gloss twice a year. Over ten years in >> the Louisiana sun and still looking pretty good. >> >> I seen dock neighbors use Bristol, teak oil, Semco, etc. For my money and >> time, it's Cetol. However, I'd be tempted to look hard at Awlwood. >> >> Dennis C. >> Touche' 35-1 #83 >> Mandeville, LA >> >> On Feb 7, 2018 10:47 AM, "Brien Sadler via CnC-List" <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> My exterior teak is starting to show signs of wear and it's time to refinish >> it. It looks as though it has been varnished in the past but was wondering >> if anyone has just used teak oil on their exterior wood. Looking for >> recommendations. >> >> Brien Sadler >> S/V TAZ >> C&C 35-3 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. 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