I have worried about the pistons and rings, but until now I did not know what 
to do about it.  Never played with car engines as a kid.  So Harbor Freight has 
compression testers fo $30 so I could test.  But if the compression stinks, is 
there anything I could do about it? 
 OTOH- starting has not been a problem.  That develoiped after my attempt to 
clean the carb.  It always started after a few pulls, but ran rough and needed 
to be intermettently choked to keep it going until warm.  Not sure if that 
problem persists.  Dave

> On Dec 20, 2019, at 5:53 PM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Dave,
> When an engine overheats, lubricants can’t provide the protection they are 
> designed for and parts will wear at an accelerated rate, specifically pistons 
> and rings.  When that occurs, you tend to lose compression which results in a 
> hard starting condition.  This will also usually lead to some oil consumption 
> that is manifested in the form of a grayish smoke.  Low compression can 
> additionally create low power and incomplete combustion which results in poor 
> fuel economy and black smoke.  If your engine is a 4 stroke model, check your 
> valve clearances as those can change with an overheating event.  If you have 
> access to a compression gauge with the proper threaded adapter for you plug 
> size, you can compare cold compression readings with what is recommended in 
> the manual to determine any top end damage.
> Chuck Gilchrest 
> S/V Half Magic 
> 83 35 Landfall 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 20, 2019, at 10:44 AM, David Knecht via CnC-List 
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> I had my first rebuilding experience with my aging Suzuki 2.5 this month.  
>> I decided to do a carburetor rebuild as the motor was not starting or 
>> running well.  Thanks to the wonders of the internet, I found several 
>> YouTube videos describing the process.  I found it to be pretty 
>> straightforward to disassemble and reassemble.  To my surprise, it looked 
>> really clean inside with no obvious problem areas.  I used carb cleaner and 
>> replaced a few gaskets, new spark plug, put it back together.  Then I 
>> disassembled the lower unit and greased and replaced gaskets and impeller 
>> there.  I added lube and tried to start it.  I took many many pulls to 
>> finally get it to start, and I was willing to write that off to needing to 
>> get fuel through an empty system.  To my dismay, it was very hard to start 
>> every time I shut it down, even when fairly warm (harder than before 
>> disassembly).  So I did not improve its performance at all as far as I can 
>> tell.  I did not disassemble the cylinder head and did not find a YouTube 
>> for that adventure.  The motor did have an overheat incident when the water 
>> pump failed a few years ago and has never run the same since, so I suspect 
>> that is part of the problem, but I can’t see how that would affect starting. 
>>  Anyone have suggestions on whether it is worth further disassembly?  
>> Thanks- Dave
>>  
>> S/V Aries
>> 1990 C&C 34+
>> New London, CT
>> 
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>>> On Dec 20, 2019, at 9:48 AM, David Risch via CnC-List 
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> A few months ago I reached out to you folks with some mystery outboard 
>>> questions.   .  Thank you to those who reached out.  After solving the 
>>> problems I thought would share as to what were the problems and solutions.
>>>  
>>> The dripping fuel was not from some mysterious, unobtainium (according to 
>>> the previous overpaid and underperforming mechanic) needle valve.  It was 
>>> the fuel petcock beneath the tank.   It
>>> seems it was always dripping (bummer) but only obvious to me when the 
>>> engine was raised and dripping into the boat.  When underway with all the 
>>> bits of water flying about it was not so discernable.
>>>  
>>> The “dry exhaust” noise was actually a missing (actually it fell into the 
>>> lower leg) gasket which surrounds the gear shift leg which protrudes up and 
>>> out of the lower drive leg.  When put in reverse the leg engages (up) the 
>>> reverse bracket lock that prevent the engine from reversing itself out of 
>>> the water.  You should see it midway up on the front side of the leg.  
>>> Without the gasket the exhaust gasses which normally flow down and out into 
>>> the water were escaping unmuffled.
>>>  
>>> These seemingly mysterious problems and their causes became quickly 
>>> apparent once I started pulling things apart and figuring out how these 
>>> little marvels actually work.  And also carefully observing the engine 
>>> while running on land.  Lesson learned that although I can fix most things 
>>> I should not have be so hesitant with the outboards.   And I know my fixes 
>>> are correct and I will not be cursing the mechanic next spring while stuck 
>>> with a still-not-running-right kicker.   And have another boat buck to 
>>> spend on “funner” things.
>>> Oh and replacing the impellor is not so hard either…
>>>  
>>> David F. Risch
>>> (401) 419-4650
>>>  
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