The original carbon steel idler is no longer available from edson. You'd have to make modifications to the deck in order to replace. I thought I remembered the idler being ~$400. Maybe I'm mistaken. The replacement cables are ~$100. The work isn't that hard but it is a little bit of a PITA.
The window delamination would not seriously concern me. The engine water flow shouldn't be too hard to overcome. Sometimes an old impeller just takes on a set and fails to prime itself. The sails are gonna set you back ~$3500 to $5000 each to replace. Upholstery is gonna be expensive. $5k to $10k If it's the boat you want and you can get a discount then I really haven't heard too much that would discourage me. I'm a risk taker and a DIYer....so YMMV. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Mon, Feb 24, 2020, 17:52 Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List < [email protected]> wrote: > List, > We looked at a 1990 34+ this weekend and I could use your input on two > items that were most concerning. The boat was much more of a project boat > than we anticipated unfortunately. We hoped to get out for a sail, but it's > not leaving the slip before some work is done. So obvious issues are below > and photos here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/V5YhFQzmjZwnCytf6 > > 1. *Heavy Rusting at base of the steering pedestal*: When I first got > on board and noticed the steering was quite stiff and a bit 'grinding.' I > thought the steering column lock was on. However, since the idler pulleys > and quadrant are above the deck on the 34+ it was easy to see a pile of > large and significant flakes of rust at the base of the pedestal where the > cables run aft to the quadrant. This was visible after the quadrant cover > that is part of the cockpit sole was lifted. The cables were also not even > seated on the quadrant or the pulleys and were grinding on the gel coat. I > have since determined that this rust must have been from the idler plate. > The cables were also shot as you might expect, with broken strands. This > appears to be about $700 or so in materials for cables and a new idle > plates and pulleys. Question is, how difficult is this to address? I will > say, that the fact that the steering cable was not even on the quadrant or > pulleys gave me pause about the truthfulness of the owner. We had > corresponded and talked about going out for a test sail and we drove quite > a bit to go see the boat. If the cables were off my quadrant I am pretty > darn sure I would notice. There was no way to turn the rudder so how would > a test sail have been possible? > 2. *Core delamination at port light: *Another item that gave me pause > was a split/de-laminated core at the forward portion of the fixed port > light. It felt dry, but I could make it compress/decompress with very > little effort. I was told it was due to the boat being lifted in the wrong > area by the yard. I suppose this could have been true given that the area > was about 3-4 aft of the forward bulkhead, where the sling should have > been. (Again, as an owner, I clearly flag on the lifelines where the > bulkheads are for the lift operator given that my C&C owner's manual on my > Rob Ball 30-2 instructs that the slings should be placed there.) So, what > is your take on this damage? Is it not a big deal or sign of potentially > larger demons? > > Other items: > > - No cooling water when the engine started and ran. The strainer was > cleared and the through hull was open so my assumption is that the vanes on > the impeller are either loose inside the water pump or have already > migrated into the heat exchanger. I have not had to fix this issue before. > Major PITA? Expensive? > - Leaks. There were a number of leaks in the cabin top where the tell > tale drip of rotten core was showing. I am willing to understand a certain > amount of this in a 30 y.o. boat, but there may be too much. > - Upholstery was shot. The video showed some ok looking upholstery, > but it was much worse in real life. It was worn and stained in a number of > places and I wondered if the foam was salvagable. What do you think a > re-uphosltery job would cost on a 34+? > - Original Mainsail - A 30 y.o. mainsail is not going to flatten or > point well. When I took the sail cover off there was a small football sized > bees nest attached to the folds in the mainsail. About how much for a new > mainsail on a 34+ with full battens and 3 reefs? > - Jib - Looked older, but I was told it was only sailed 1/2 dozen > times and was 6-8 years old. I was not able to unfurl it all the way given > the wind and being stuck in the slip. There was minor mildew spotting near > the leach and the UV cover looked a bit tired. > > There was a bunch of old sailing junk and personal items on board so I was > unable to get a good look in the cabinets and under berths since stuff was > piled on them. In general the boat is not in sellable condition, but I want > to use the experience to educate myself on these issues. Here is a link to > some photos. I am keeping the location and boat name private since the > owner says he is selling it. > Thanks everybody. > > > _______________________________________________ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > >
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