Have a different story for what happens: When I joined Bristol Yacht
Club there was already another red C&C 35 mk2 moored here. Ray had
modified it to double/single hand it to race to Bermuda and won many of
those races. About five years ago he decided the boat was a little much
for him to handle and downsized to a Ericson 34-2; a few years later he
downsized again to a Sabre 28. Last week he gave up on the downsizing
and bought a '79 Tartan 37 - just couldn't get the medium sized racer
cruiser out of his blood.
Don Kern
/Fireball/, C&C35 Mk2
Bristol, RI
On 9/30/2025 9:56 AM, Matthew Wolford via CnC-List wrote:
Say it ain’t so.
*From:*Bill Coleman via CnC-List <[email protected]>
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 30, 2025 9:48 AM
*To:* Stus-List <[email protected]>
*Cc:* Bill Coleman <[email protected]>
*Subject:* Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Is there a new boat in my future?
Trawlers are where old sailors go today
Bill Coleman
On Tue, Sep 30, 2025, 09:27 Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
<[email protected]> wrote:
Another thought:
When I was in the boat fixing business I saw this scenario more
than once:
An aging couple sold their 30-something foot fin keel racer
cruiser. This is a boat they had forever and was easy to handle
around the marina and fast enough to be a lazy sailor with some
jib rolled out and still get where you wanted to go.
The next boat was a 40-something foot heavier cruising boat with
all the mod cons. Now they had all kinds of systems to maintain
they never had before. This much heavier and less agile boat was
much more of a challenge to get in and out of a slip. A big heavy
boat needs big sails to move, there was no more rolling a bit of
job out and being on your way.
The next step after that was a power boat once they realized they
had more boat then they could handle.
*/Joe Della Barba/*
*From:*Richard Bush <[email protected]>
*Sent:* Monday, September 29, 2025 1:35 PM
*To:* Stus-List <[email protected]>
*Cc:* Riley Anderson <[email protected]>; Della Barba, Joe
<[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Is there a new boat in
my future?
Joe, well said!
Richard
1985 37 CB: Ohio River, Mile 596
Richard N. Bush Law Offices
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On Monday, September 29, 2025 at 01:22:27 PM EDT, Della Barba, Joe
via CnC-List <[email protected]> wrote:
There are a LOT of different factors in play here.
My C&C 35 MK I is very narrow by modern standards. My initial
stability is not all that good, the boat heels easily to a gust.
My AVS (Angle of Vanishing Stability) is pretty good, I think it
is about 125.
Think about a fat-a55 BeneHunt type boat. Their initial stability
is much higher, not to mention space below. Their AVS is likely
lower and their behaviour when well-heeled likely quite a bit
worse. I have taken 20+ foot breaking waves on the beam that
rolled us nearly 90 degrees. This was wet and annoying, but the
boat popped right back up to keep sailing. A boat 5 feet wider…….I
am thinking not so much.
There are also various moments of inertia. A heavier boat doesn’t
jump around like a lighter boat. It may be slower, but the ride
may be a lot more comfortable. Rolling inertia is a big factor in
capsize resistance. A bigger heavier boat is harder to get
rolling, so unlike her lighter sisters she won’t have rolled as
far before the wave has past. The C&C 30 MK I probably has the
highest AVS of any C&C made, but that does not necessarily mean
one is harder to capsize than a C&C 40.
Another form of stability is steering or course-keeping. For a
shorthanded crew, a 35 would be a challenge in heavy air offshore.
My boat is fast in heavy air, but she does not come remotely close
to steering herself. A lot of helm input is needed, especially if
getting into double-digit speeds down a wave and this input needs
muscle. A boat that maybe doesn’t turn on a dime like our boats
but is easy to keep straight would be a lot less work for 2 people
alternating watches.
( this does not always translate into an old design, our old wood
Dickerson Ketch was a total biatch to keep straight in a
quartering sea with the mizzen trying to shove the stern around)
*/Joe Della Barba/*
Coquina
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