Hi,

Let’s fix the process and better organise this critical review of the bylawsl. 
I do support the idea of a committee .

—Alain


> On Sep 19, 2016, at 4:25 PM, Bope Domilongo Christian 
> <christianb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Dear CEO,
> 
> [speaking as a member of the community]
> 
> Following last week discussion on the accountability review and others points 
> raised by the community which was not in your original document, here my 
> response.
> 
> 
> 
> 1.  On the Accountability Review.
> 
> This review is from an independent AFRINIC's accountability review which 
> identified areas need to be improved. Improving RIR accountability is very 
> important in this context of IANA stewardship transition where the community 
> will be exercising important role in the oversight of the IANA functions.
> 
> So it is very crucial that the community gives this discussion the required 
> attention and the consensual approach is more needed.
> 
> It will be unfortunate if we did not follow these important improvements due 
> to lack of consensus.
> 
> 2. on the Process
> 
> It was expected that the community discuss, express view and concern 
> thereafter the Leadership will do his best effort to build consensus. 
> Consensus here is strictly in the sense of RIR practices mean The Rough 
> Consensus Model [1].
> 
> Ideally, people shall be encourage to comment on the list for the sake of 
> archive and off list contribution should be discouraged and not accepted.
> 
> That why some members of the community suggested the creation of a committee 
> to lead the process.
> 
>  
> 3. On the discussion.
> 
> Community has expressed views on each points. As expected there were 
> convergences and divergences. For example, points 3,4, 5 had active and 
> intensive discussions while reading may sound like profound disagreement. We 
> shall now entire to the consensus building mode by opening the disagreement 
> views and addressing one by one then we'll build ROUGH CONSENSUS.
> 
> Another example, on point 11, there was no objection, but some suggestions 
> even propose more such as "Registered Members only MUST never amend the 
> bylaws, ..." and The proposed amendment should be published not less than 60 
> days and not more than 90 days before, with the provisions for more members 
> to comment online and in any meeting held during the consultation period" 
> 
> 4. On the other points.
> 
> Beyond the 12 points, some areas of improvements were suggested.
> 
> For example, 
> https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2016-June/000350.html 
> <https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2016-June/000350.html> 
> lists some of the points
> 
> [1] https://www.nro.net/about-the-nro/rir-accountability 
> <https://www.nro.net/about-the-nro/rir-accountability> on section 1.4
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Bope
> 
> On 19 September 2016 at 17:03, Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com 
> <mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com>> wrote:
> I agree with the sentiments as echoed by Boubakar below.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks
> 
>  
> 
> Andrew
> 
>  
> 
>  
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> From: Mike Silber <silber.m...@gmail.com <mailto:silber.m...@gmail.com>>
> Reply-To: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net 
> <mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net>>
> Date: Monday, 19 September 2016 at 10:39
> To: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net 
> <mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net>>
> Cc: "members-disc...@afrinic.net <mailto:members-disc...@afrinic.net>" 
> <members-disc...@afrinic.net <mailto:members-disc...@afrinic.net>>
> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes
> 
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> 
> On 18 Sep 2016, at 23:44, Boubakar Barry <boubakar.ba...@wacren.net 
> <mailto:boubakar.ba...@wacren.net>> wrote:
> 
>  
> 
> …
> 
> 
> 
> 
> We can of course think of advantages we can give to associate members  to 
> acknowledge their commitment and support. But I would not support giving 
> voting rights to associate members. I would rather be for removing this 
> membership category instead.
> 
>  
> 
> Boubakar +1
> 
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